Ubuntu 12.04 LTS removing unity and installing GNOME

[Liam Proven]

On 6 June 2012 13:54, Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's just it, Apple managed to, not Ubuntu. We don't want to copy Apple.

"We"?

> You might say the global menu bars were taken from Apple,


... Which I didn't. See my reply to Rashkae.

The design of Unity is far more similar to OS X than anything else, though.

> but they are far
> different from Apple's rendition of them, even though they have the same
> functionality. If you are writing a new email in Thunderbird in Unity, look
> up at the title. It's huge, and would not be able to fit it's menu bar next
> to it. It gives more information than Apple's Finderbar does. Apple's
> Finderbar says "Thunderbird", but Ubuntu's says "Write: Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
> removing unity and installing GNOME - Western (Windows-1252)". Apple's
> Finderbar does not give that much information. It probably would if there
> was no titlebar, but there is in OS X. In a maximised window in OS X, there
> are two parts of the app: the app itself, which has a titlebar, and then
> Finderbar, which has the menu for the app, always visible because the
> information is in the titlebar, which is exactly where it is in Ubuntu. In
> Ubuntu, it is in the titlebar, which is located on the top panel.

Only if the window is maximised.

There is lots of room for the long-form information in a conventional
window's title bar. If it's maximised, it could simply be abbreviated
to the app name and nothing else.
>
> I think I do understand the rationale but I too really don't think the
> auto-hiding menus was a good idea.
>
> We really have no where else to put it, unless we changed it to where there
> were no titlebar for a maximised window.

"We" again. You had no part in the design of this; you're just another
commenter in the peanut gallery, as am I. Drop the "we".

> I would suggest moving things like this into ticky-boxes in the
> Appearance preference pane/control panel applet:
>
> * global menu bar versus menus in windows
> * menu bar revealed on mouseover / menus permanently visible
> * narrow scrollbars + autohiding thumbs / standard scrollbars
> * Unity launcher: left / bottom / right
>
> There is really no design suitable for the launcher being moved.

Nonesense. It would work fine in all 3 positions.

> I think it
> looks good on the left side of the screen,

Personally, I agree, but some don't like it there.

> and with a patch, the one that
> puts it on the bottom, it looks good too. But with the dash open, it looks
> rather out of place.

Not really. Some of the decoration ideally needs to be adjusted
slightly, that's all.

> We really want this to be the design of Unity: the

*Please* drop this "we" thing. It is /very/ annoying and it /is not true./

> launcher to be on the left, the titlebar to be on the top panel, and overlay
> scrollbars. Overlay scrollbars really don't make the computer easier to use,
> but they don't make it harder to use, either.

Oh yes they do!

Not all devices have scroll wheels or any kind of scroll controller.
At least one of my laptops in current use with Precise does not.

Even in devices that do, some of us prefer to drag the sliders or
click in the scrollbar, not use hardware scroll gadgets.

> They are basically there to
> make Unity appear that it is further ahead than Mac OS X and Windows,

No, they aren't. They are there to save screen space, mainly.
"Advance" is very much a subjective judgement call.

> which
> in reality, Unity is just that.

My personal impression from extensive use of both is that Mac OS X is
still a /lot/ more polished and "advanced" than Ubuntu.

> In Christ,

Drop that as well.  I am not replying in the name of Yeshweh of
Nazareth or anyone else; I don't think there's enough evidence to take
it as given that Yeshweh ever actually existed. Whether or not he did,
I don't share your mystical belief and am offended by your regular
inclusion of propaganda for your sect. Please remove it.

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