Ubuntu 12.04 LTS removing unity and installing GNOME

[Ryan Gauger]

On 06/06/2012 06:12 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 5 June 2012 13:35, Ryan Gauger<rtgkid at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I can answer one of your thoughts on this... Moving the app menus to the top
>> panel was done to provide more space for the app. This is part of what
>> creates a distraction-free area, especially for maximised apps. It may not
>> look like it, but if you really think about it, hiding the app menu by
>> default helps to create more space. We could not fit the menu on the same
>> panel as the title, window control buttons, and indicator applets
> Odd, since Apple managed to... :¬)
That's just it, *Apple* managed to, not Ubuntu. We don't want to copy 
Apple. You might say the global menu bars were taken from Apple, but 
they are far different from Apple's rendition of them, even though they 
have the same functionality. If you are writing a new email in 
Thunderbird in Unity, look up at the title. It's huge, and would not be 
able to fit it's menu bar next to it. It gives more information than 
Apple's Finderbar does. Apple's Finderbar says "Thunderbird", but 
Ubuntu's says "Write: Re: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS removing unity and installing 
GNOME - Western (Windows-1252)". Apple's Finderbar does not give that 
much information. It probably would if there was no titlebar, but there 
is in OS X. In a maximised window in OS X, there are two parts of the 
app: the app itself, which has a titlebar, and then Finderbar, which has 
the menu for the app, always visible because the information is in the 
titlebar, which is exactly where it is in Ubuntu. In Ubuntu, it is in 
the titlebar, which is located on the top panel.
>
> I think I do understand the rationale but I too really don't think the
> auto-hiding menus was a good idea.
We really have no where else to put it, unless we changed it to where 
there were no titlebar for a maximised window.
>
> I would suggest moving things like this into ticky-boxes in the
> Appearance preference pane/control panel applet:
>
> * global menu bar versus menus in windows
> * menu bar revealed on mouseover / menus permanently visible
> * narrow scrollbars + autohiding thumbs / standard scrollbars
> * Unity launcher: left / bottom / right
There is really no design suitable for the launcher being moved. I think 
it looks good on the left side of the screen, and with a patch, the one 
that puts it on the bottom, it looks good too. But with the dash open, 
it looks rather out of place. We really want this to be the design of 
Unity: the launcher to be on the left, the titlebar to be on the top 
panel, and overlay scrollbars. Overlay scrollbars really don't make the 
computer easier to use, but they don't make it harder to use, either. 
They are basically there to make Unity appear that it is further ahead 
than Mac OS X and Windows, which in reality, Unity is just that.
Thanks!

In Christ,
Ryan
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