[ADMIN] Additional moderator(s) sought for ubuntu-users list - clarifications

Basil Chupin blchupin at iinet.net.au
Wed Sep 28 14:25:07 UTC 2011

On 28/09/11 23:38, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 28 September 2011 14:20, Basil Chupin<blchupin at iinet.net.au>  wrote:
>> If one really seriously thinks about this, what Alan stated, "At the last
>> Community Council meeting (and on at least two occasions on the past 2
>> years I've been on the Community Council) it's been suggested that
>> this list should be shutdown for good..." is more than indicative of the
>> attitude that Canonical's "Community Council" has towards its users.
> The Community Council is not staffed only by Canonical employees. It's
> the Ubuntu Community Council. But lets not let facts get in the way of
> a good conspiracy though.

I did not suggest that it was staffed by Canonical employees.

But you cannot deny that it is not under the aegis of, and created by, 
Canonical - hence "Canonical's 'Community Council'".

> I
> cannot help wondering for how long it was mooted by the "Council" to
> shutdown Sounder?
> It wasn't mooted by the council. It was suggested by individuals.

Aaah. "..suggested by individuals.." -- who shall, of course, remain 
nameless, eh?

And the "Community Council", being a collection of broad minded and 
reasoned personages came to that conclusion after paying very close 
attention to "individuals", eh? Someone like Karl Larsen perhaps?

OK. I accept that. I've been involved with braindead individuals in the 
past as well so I can understand what you state.

>   We
> discussed it and came to the conclusion (for both lists) on multiple
> occasions not to shut them down.

Ce`? But then why was Sounder shutdown?

> ".....and on at least two occasions on the past 2 years...".
> And all this time people were made to believe that their interests were
> being looked after and promoted by Canonical's "Community Council" when
> 'they' were plotting all the time to shutdown this venue.
> Nope. Not true. Take the tinfoil hat off, it doesn't suit.

Alan I have always considered you to be a straightforward and honest 
person. I think I had already indicated this to you quite some time ago.

However, I don't think that you would make it into the diplomatic corp - 
and I (all of us here actually) are most pleased about this because what 
you say we can take as being non-bullshit even though you try to couch 
it in such BS terms (no offence :-) ).

There is no need for me to take off the tinfoil hat. I (we all) can read 
and understand what you wrote and meant.

How else could any reasonable person interpret what you wrote above:

"We discussed it and came to the conclusion ( *for* *both* *lists* ) on 
occasions not to shut them down."

(My emphasis.)

> Cheers,
> Al.
My personal regards,


You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.
                                 Sir Winston Churchill

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