[OT] why isn't bikeshed good enough as a sounder replacement?

[ruscook]

On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 18:57 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:

> I. On Sun, 2011-06-19 at 08:16 +1000, ruscook wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 15:17 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: 
> > > On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 11:45 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: 
> > > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 09:38:26AM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >          .........snip.........
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think we've been led to believe that the,"entire Ubuntu membership,"
> > > > > includes each and every one of us.  Where's my ballot?  Where /have
> > > > > been/ my ballots in the past?  How about voting notification?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, community/Community.
> > > > 
> > > > You may not remember, but Mark the Magnificent has already said "this is
> > > > not a democracy". You're also forgetting about the Golden Rule:
> > > > 
> > > > He who has the gold makes the rules
> > > 
> > > To a point, you are 100% correct. It is a meritocracy. But, one who has
> > > the gold may not be able to exchange it for a carrot, if the farmer will
> > > not accept it, since he can't eat it. So, there is a certain amount of
> > > good will exchange that we value the same currency, that being the
> > > Ubuntu distribution. 
> > Nice point. I can't understand why people can't get over this. This is
> > open source and the internet.
> > 
> > That means, if you don't like how it's being run - start your own
> > forum and or distro - that is freedom. We each have it.
> > 
> > Whinging because someone else won't pay for it, is leeching.
> 
> Well, Wiz's point was that there was some sort of consensus reached,
> that didn't include us. Running an one additional mail list on Ubuntu

ah, but when we're not paying the bills why should it include us?  There
was an expectation there not matched with $$ nor agreed by the other
party.

> servers doesn't exactly cost much. Let me know who to write the check
> out to, for 5 cents worth of electricity a month, and I'll write it just
> so there is no monetary issue at stake. <grins>
> 

Well I think that's a bit simplistic. 10s and 100s of gigabyte cost a
fair bit to provision on production servers. Then there's traffic
volumes of ISPs, staff to ensure the system is running and finally
electricity. True the last 2 would be split across all apps running on
the system but it's still a cost that Mark's company has paid.


And as I said, anyone who doesn't like it is free to set up their own
system... Would take less energy than the continual carping on here :-)


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