Why apple is so popular

[Odd]

Knapp wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Odd <iodine at runbox.no> wrote:
>> Knapp wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:09 PM, user1 <bqz69 at telia.com> wrote:
>>>> Talked to my son in usa to day.
>>>> 
>>>> He said, that the main reason apple is so popular in USA is:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The hardware is very stable and has a very good quality
>>>> without hardly any problems.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. The Graphic is nice to look at.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Ease of use.
>>>> 
>>>> 4. Very few viruses.
>>>> 
>>>> So my conclusion is that linux is as good as apple except for
>>>> the hardware, which are all kinds of mixed brands and
>>>> qualities.
>>>> 
>>>> My laptop (not apple) has been to be repaired twice.
>>>> 
>>>> My son has had two laptops (not apple) discarded, and he i now
>>>> using a netbook, which is hardly usable, everything is too
>>>> small.
>>>> 
>>>> So what is needed for the linux community is a very stable and
>>>> good quality hardware which works together.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry if this is a little off topic, but it is an important
>>>> subject.
>>>> 
>>>> Please DO NOT make this a flame war, but think about it.
>>>> 
>>>> I really want to make linux the BEST :-)
>>> Sadly Ubuntu is not as stable as Apple and it is not as user
>>> friendly. I just added a Wacom tablet to my computer. I have had
>>> all sorts of problems with it.
>> I don't see what this has to do with Ubuntu's stability or 
>> user-friendliness. It's a device.
> 
> A device that is very common but the company will not make drivers
> for Linux but they have been kind enough to give the devs ALL the
> hardware info that they need which is way better than most firms like
> Logitech that just leave us guessing.

Agreed.

> But the driver is not done nor stable and locks my system down hard,
> forcing a reboot about one time a day. I know it will be fixed but If
> I had an apple or MS then this would not be the case because they
> support those systems.

There are lots of stuff they don't support though.

> This gets repeated a lot in Linux and often with the Hardware
> companies being outright hostile to Linux or at least not helpful. It
> would seem that MS is often behind this problem.

Could be. They certainly have shown to be capable of it in the past.

>>> I, being a programmer, can overcome this but the normal user?
>>> Other problems, my webcam will not work as well with linux as
>>> with MS or Apple do to the company not writing software or 
>>> drivers for it
>> MS does not write drivers for webcams other than their own.
> 
> Yep, but they sure do get the drivers they need written for them!
> This is for many reason, market share being a big one and MS heavy 
> handedness being the other.

Yep.

>>> and my Logitech multibutton mouse is a real pain to make work
>>> with all the software(Yes the basic 3 buttons work), And lets not
>>> even talk about sound. Linux is full of little problems like 
>>> this. It is a great system but it is not that newbie friendly. I
>>> think that this, " remove the paper cuts" project is the right
>>> way to go and should get a lot more attention!
>> You seem to be talking about 3rd party peripherals. If you check, 
>> you'll find a lot of those that do not work at all, or
>> satisfactorily with Windows or MacOS. In fact, Linux supports a lot
>> of stuff that was obsoleted by newer versions of Windows not being
>> compatible with drivers written for older versions of that OS.
> 
> Yep, they want to force the users to upgrade. MS=Evil Corp, at least
> to me.

Less evil today than before, but that's only because they are forced
to by the EU and DOJ.

>> In any case, it's a good practice to actually check if the OS one
>> is using actually supports the hardware _before_ buying it.
> 
> Yep, and wouldn't it be nice if everything in the stores had little 
> stickers saying Linux compatible?

That would be very nice.

> This is users friendliness. Linux just does not have it and likely
> never will.

I disagree on both counts.

> Don't get me wrong, I would rather not have a computer than give up
> Linux but it should would be nice to solve all these paper cuts!
> 
> I sure wish that my HD Logitech camera could uses its focus in Linux 
> and HD Video with Skype but it can't!

So get a camera that works.

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Odd