Please, Ubuntu, do not embarrass me again!

[Karl Larsen]

On 06/08/2010 06:54 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 07/06/10 23:34, Tom H wrote:
>    
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Basil Chupin<blchupin at iinet.net.au>   wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> On 06/06/10 21:34, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Pulseaudio is a PITA!
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, Ubuntu, do something in respect of getting sound to work "out of
>>>>> the box" for people who install Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> But pulseaudio allows us to match the sound system of Solaris and Mac OS X!
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Nobody is stopping you from using pulseaudio. The problem is that it is
>>> installed by default and does allow the sound to work for most people
>>> (read the questions in this ML about people having problems with getting
>>> sound when installing Ubuntu).
>>>
>>> Install alsamixergui by default so that people can get to see all the
>>> parameters available to get sound working - which pulseaudio does not
>>> allow as I have already explained - and then if you want to stream or
>>> whatever your sound then install pulseaudio.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Why should one app hoging the sound to the exclusion of all others be a
>>>> defining characteristic of Linux?!
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Exactly. Why should a PITA app. like pulseaudio cause such hassles with
>>> sound for people installing Ubuntu?
>>>
>>>        
>> I can't begin to understand why anyone would want to use pulseaudio on
>> OSX given how many problems it creates on Linux and how smooth the
>> audio experience is on a Mac (or even on Windows).
>>      
> Umm, in Windows there is no sound until you install the driver for your
> sound card. Have no idea about the Mac.
>
> At least in a Linux distro until pulseaudio was foisted on everyone you
> could get sound pretty simply using alsa - and without even having to
> install the sound files from the CD meant for Windows installation.
>
> BC
>
>    
     Unless I am forgetting, it was just one Intel version of a sound 
driver that Ubuntu can't, for some reason work with. All others Ubuntu 
gets good sound with pulseaudio. I have a laptop with a Intel sound 
device and it works fine with 4 versions of Ubuntu.


73 Karl


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