Basil Chupin blchupin at
Fri Jul 23 10:01:44 UTC 2010

On 23/07/10 18:19, J wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 02:35, Basil Chupin<blchupin at>  wrote:
>> Yeah...those using gmail ought to have their<.....>  removed by one of 2
>> methods: the, more preferred, sudden and unexpected, but joyous, yanking
>> action, or surgically (without anaesthetic naturally) :-) .
>> But I hasten to add that I have nothing against gmail........ O:-) .
> Point me to a non-Gmail/Yahoo/etc mail service that allows me to:
> A: aggregate, organize and archive e-mail from 50 - 100 different mailing lists
> B: Provides a not perfect but usable interface that can be accessed
> from any machine any where
> C: Doesn't cost me anything to use
> D: Provides labeling and decent filtering as well as very good spam
> catching (I average about 1 - 3 spams per month that don't get
> filtered, and ALL of those are spammers posting to a python list I'm
> on)
> E: Provides mobile applications allowing similar access via my
> Blackberry, iPod, or other mobile devices at any time
> F: Allows me to synchronize calendar appointments between multiple
> calendars and on mobile devices with various access controls and
> sharing features as well as send reminders via SMS and e-mail
> simultaneously
> G: Allows me to also use these meshed services to share documents
> between myself, co-workers, etc
> H: Does all this without me having to do much configuration at all on
> my own saving me more time that I could spend getting things
> accomplished
> and I'll gladly try it out and get away from GMail.
> Nobody says it's perfect, but saves a lot of time and effort that I
> can better spend elsewhere...
> Cheers
> Jeff

Ummm, I don't know where you are because your gmail address tells no one 
anything - which is why most people use, I guess, because it hides their 
identity; but don't quote me as I have never used any qmail or yahoo or 
anything else goobly-dooky except my own ISPs' facilities for mail and 
their maibox facilities. If your ISP doesn't give you the flexibility to 
have what you want then you should consider looking for another ISP, no?

But let me say this, that I am using Thunderbird (and Firefox) and I 
have never in the past 2 years received any spam messages from my ISP 
after I switched over to this ISP. (The ISP before my current one didn't 
have a sensible spam filter for some reason and so Thunderbird had to 
handle the job; but with my current ISP no spam gets thru [admission: 5 
spams got thru a few weeks ago for some reason but now this has stopped 
after I told the ISP about this].)

I also can receive all the mail from various mail lists I belong to and 
have all the messages allocated to the appropriate list - including the 
allocation of mail from any one of my relations or friends. A message 
comes in - and it goes to the appropriate folder. No drama, no problemo. 
And messages from certain deadheads listed in my filter go to the 
latrine folder so that I never have to see the crap that's in them....

If you are using Ubuntu - which I assume that you are - then have you 
tried to use the facility which is available under the envelope-looking 
icon on the top panel (I don't know what it is called)? Gives the 
ability to set up and use Chat and also Mail - as in what I believe is 
what you are doing with gmail (but I may be wrong). All part of Lucid's 
free facilities and available to you when you install Lucid. And of 
course, you have the calendar plus available to you in Lucid - again on 
the top panel.


And God created Woman; and to repent He then created Beer.

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