sun-java versions

sktsee sktsee at
Mon Jan 25 20:39:36 UTC 2010

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:33:04 -0800, NoOp wrote:


> Amazing. I don't see Ubuntu removing the flash updater and replacing
> with gnash...
> Rather than build a .deb, I generally just move the file to
> /usr/lib/jvm/ and adjust to have everything point to
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java (and of course update-alternatives
> accordingly). Perhaps it would be easier to create a script/installer
> like the adobe-flashplugin.

Ideally, I'd like to see Canonical get Sun to participate in its Partner 
program and host sun-java in Canonical's Partner repository. Maybe 
they've already approached Sun and got turned down, but it seems that if 
Ubuntu were to give Sun the necessary support to create Debian packages, 
then Sun would be responsible for the updates like Adobe is for flash. 
But this is such an obvious idea, I can't imagine that it hasn't been 
tried already. 

Anyway, I will mention that I downloaded the Sun Java SE Jre 6-18 update 
yesterday and created a package to install it using java-package. There 
is a trivial bug in the postinst script that make-jpkg includes on its 
created .deb file which prevents the package from installing cleanly. 
However, there's a very easy to workaround to fix it.  I'm going to check 
to file a bug report on it later today if there isn't one already. So 
far, everything java related seems to work ok. I hardly use any java 
apps, but OpenOffice and Firefox work fine, and a trial copy of 
Moneydance didn't have any problems. 

> Tried openJDK previously (within the past few months) and everything
> went to hell for my multiple versions of, SeaMonkey &
> Firefox browsers (all of which are installed independent of Ubuntu
> repos). Same for the test machine with the Ubuntu flavours installed &
> and took me a full afternoon to get everything sorted out.
> Gotta love it...
> hardy-updates (interpreters): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> [universe]
> 6b11-2ubuntu2.1: amd64 i386
> jaunty (interpreters): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b14-1.4.1-0ubuntu12 [security]: amd64 i386
> karmic-updates (java): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b16-1.6.1-3ubuntu1: amd64 i386
> lucid (interpreters): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b17-0ubuntu2: amd64 i386

The version issue with OpenJDK isn't a problem like it is with sun-java 
since all of the OpenJDK packages in each Ubuntu release gets all the 
security updates regularly applied. According to the 2nd link you 
provided,  the last security update for all OpenJDK versions was 10 weeks 
ago. I suspect there will be another round of updates fairly soon.  This 
follows Ubuntu's policy of updating release versions to fix security and 
high impact bugs rather than upgrading them to newer upstream versions. 

So at least if you are using OpenJDK, you can be reasonably be sure 
you're getting security updates, even if your java apps are acting flakey 
because of all of its bugs. 


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