sktsee at tulsaconnect.com
Mon Jan 25 20:39:36 UTC 2010
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:33:04 -0800, NoOp wrote:
> Amazing. I don't see Ubuntu removing the flash updater and replacing
> with gnash...
> Rather than build a .deb, I generally just move the file to
> /usr/lib/jvm/ and adjust to have everything point to
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java (and of course update-alternatives
> accordingly). Perhaps it would be easier to create a script/installer
> like the adobe-flashplugin.
Ideally, I'd like to see Canonical get Sun to participate in its Partner
program and host sun-java in Canonical's Partner repository. Maybe
they've already approached Sun and got turned down, but it seems that if
Ubuntu were to give Sun the necessary support to create Debian packages,
then Sun would be responsible for the updates like Adobe is for flash.
But this is such an obvious idea, I can't imagine that it hasn't been
Anyway, I will mention that I downloaded the Sun Java SE Jre 6-18 update
yesterday and created a package to install it using java-package. There
is a trivial bug in the postinst script that make-jpkg includes on its
created .deb file which prevents the package from installing cleanly.
However, there's a very easy to workaround to fix it. I'm going to check
to file a bug report on it later today if there isn't one already. So
far, everything java related seems to work ok. I hardly use any java
apps, but OpenOffice and Firefox work fine, and a trial copy of
Moneydance didn't have any problems.
> Tried openJDK previously (within the past few months) and everything
> went to hell for my multiple versions of Openoffice.org, SeaMonkey &
> Firefox browsers (all of which are installed independent of Ubuntu
> repos). Same for the test machine with the Ubuntu flavours installed &
> and took me a full afternoon to get everything sorted out.
> Gotta love it...
> hardy-updates (interpreters): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b11-2ubuntu2.1: amd64 i386
> jaunty (interpreters): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b14-1.4.1-0ubuntu12 [security]: amd64 i386
> karmic-updates (java): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b16-1.6.1-3ubuntu1: amd64 i386
> lucid (interpreters): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT
> 6b17-0ubuntu2: amd64 i386
The version issue with OpenJDK isn't a problem like it is with sun-java
since all of the OpenJDK packages in each Ubuntu release gets all the
security updates regularly applied. According to the 2nd link you
provided, the last security update for all OpenJDK versions was 10 weeks
ago. I suspect there will be another round of updates fairly soon. This
follows Ubuntu's policy of updating release versions to fix security and
high impact bugs rather than upgrading them to newer upstream versions.
So at least if you are using OpenJDK, you can be reasonably be sure
you're getting security updates, even if your java apps are acting flakey
because of all of its bugs.
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