ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 213

Israel David idave147 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 14:48:59 UTC 2010


hello good people,
Is there a way to search this tremendous
lists.ubuntu.com<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>for past
questions-answers ?
Thanks

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>   1. Re: Beginner Q1: Linux incapable of handling FDD? CONCLUDED
>      (Fajar Priyanto)
>   2. Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites
>      (Gilles Gravier)
>   3. Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff? (Amedee Van Gasse (ub))
>   4. Re: Weeding out Duplicate files in Hardy Heron 8.04 (Rafiq Hajat)
>   5. Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites
>      (Mihamina Rakotomandimby)
>   6. Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 203 (Karl F. Larsen)
>   7. Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff? (Oliver Grawert)
>   8. Help! (LN Smith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:49:37 +0800
> From: Fajar Priyanto <fajarpri at arinet.org>
> Subject: Re: Beginner Q1: Linux incapable of handling FDD? CONCLUDED
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz
> <thomas at s7.dion.ne.jp> wrote:
> > Good evening
> > Thank you for all your advice.
> > Apparently many people CAN use floppys - I cannot; after trying for
> > several months.
> >
> > "When you say you can't get your Floppy diosk drive to work in Linux
> > what exactly are you trying to do with it?" -> Just pop a FD in, read,
> > write, maybe format it, pop it out. That's it.
>
> I have some trick regarding floppy. No need to open terminal, sudo
> mount etc etc....
> This is how:
> 1. Right Click on the Task Bar (Panel)
> 2. Add to Panel
> 3. Select "Disk Mounter"
> 4. Voila, it will show an icon on the Panel for floppy.
> 5. Insert the Floppy disk and click on the icon> Mount floppy
> 6. When done, click on the icon again... Umount floppy.
>
> What's best... It works for all other mountable: flashdisk, external
> hdd, CD/DVD, etc.. :)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:53:13 +0100
> From: Gilles Gravier <ggravier at fsfe.org>
> Subject: Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Cc: Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina at gulfsat.mg>
> Message-ID: <4B570AC9.60204 at fsfe.org>
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>
> Hi!
>
> On 20/01/2010 14:44, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> >> Gilles Gravier<ggravier at fsfe.org>  :
> >> Intel and AMD are the same... Just that Intel is usually used to
> >> refer to 32 bit architectures and AMD to 64 bit architectures.
> >>
> > No. Completely wrong.
> > - i386, i686... for 32bits (Intel or AMD)
> > - amd64 for 64bits (Intel or AMD)
> >
>
> You say it yourself "amd64" for 64 bits. I used the term "AMD to 64 bit
> architectures"
> And you say it yourself "i386" for 32 bits. I say "Just that Intel is
> usually used to refer to 32 bit".
>
> You say I'm wrong yet you say the same thing as I do (albeit with
> different phrasing.
>
> Gilles.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:57:17 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <amedee-ubuntu at amedee.be>
> Subject: Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <b143ad5cc22e32597a32fcb6eceda924.squirrel at amedee.be>
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> Because the question was multiposted, I have to multipost my answer. Sorry
> if you read it before, I'll combine it on one email.
>
> On Mon, January 18, 2010 09:53, giovanni_re wrote:
> > Is there an breakdown analysis by size of the major categories of the
> > files on the ISOs?
> >
> > Like, every component that is >1% of the size?  Like, Kernel, GUI,
> > Applications, & breakdown for some of the major applications, like OO,
> FF,
> > whatever?
> >
> > If it doesn't exist, could someone do that analysis quickly? Can it be
> > done easily?  Could you do it? if so, TIA :)
>
> This is how far I got:
>
> ----------CUT----------
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ mkdir -p /tmp/karmic
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ sudo mount -o loop
> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso /tmp/karmic
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ sudo aptitude install squashfs-tools
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ apt-cache search squashfs
> squashfs-modules-2.6-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6 on AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6-openvz-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6
> on AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6-vserver-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6
> on AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6 on
> AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6.26
> on AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux
> 2.6.26 on AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux
> 2.6.26 on AMD64
> squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux
> 2.6.26 on AMD64
> squashfs-source - Source for the squash filesystem
> live-initramfs - Debian Live initramfs hook
> squashfs-tools-dbg - Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems
> (debug)
> squashfs-tools - Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ uname -r
> 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ sudo aptitude install
> squashfs-modules-2.6-xen-amd64
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ sudo modprobe squashfs
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ lsmod | grep squash
> squashfs               40336  0
> zlib_inflate           18944  2 squashfs,isofs
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ mkdir -p /tmp/karmic-squashfs
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ sudo mount
> /tmp/karmic/casper/filesystem.squashfs /tmp/karmic-squashfs -t squashfs
> mount: /tmp/karmic/casper/filesystem.squashfs is geen blok-apparaat
> (misschien '-o loop' proberen?)
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ sudo mount
> /tmp/karmic/casper/filesystem.squashfs /tmp/karmic-squashfs -t squashfs -o
> loop
> mount: onjuiste bestandssysteemsoort, ongeldige optie, ontbrekende
> codepagina,
>       ontbrekend hulpprogramma, slecht superblok op /dev/loop1, of een
> andere fout
>       Soms staat er nuttige informatie in het systeemlog --
>       probeer zoiets als:  dmesg | tail
>
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ dmesg | tail
> [11236478.952075] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=85.17.73.36
> DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=27588 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=4324 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> [11236481.966756] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=85.17.73.36
> DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=28944 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=4324 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> [11236500.876868] loop: module loaded
> [11236501.004036] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
> [11236501.035969] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
> [11236923.474303] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=198.63.210.173
> DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=116 ID=892 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=3014 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> [11236926.471165] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=198.63.210.173
> DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=116 ID=3853 DF PROTO=TCP
> SPT=3014 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> [11237015.859457] squashfs: version 3.3-CVS (2008/04/04) Phillip Lougher
> [11237260.576381] SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, trying to mount
> newer 4.0 filesystem
> [11237260.576391] SQUASHFS error: Please update your kernel
> ----------CUT----------
>
> Like, meh...
> Could anyone please try to mount the squashfs filesystem on the iso with
> the correct version of squashfs? I don't want to frak up my precious
> Debian box.
> Once it's mounted, it is just a simple matter of using du. Probably
> something like
> du /tmp/karmic-squashfs | sort -n | head -n 50
>
> That would give you a list of the 50 biggest files inside the squashed
> filesystem on the iso. It would probably need a bit of refinement
> somewhere, but that's how I would approach this question.
>
> > Also, is it possible to diff the different ISOs, so that if you have one
> > already, & want one other, you don't have to dl all 700MB, just the diff?
> > Like, between 9.10 Ub & KUb for x86?
>
> >> No.
> >
> > I think you are wrong. There are programs that can diff binary files,
> > for example xdelta. Is this not what he ask for? I haven't used xdelta
> > and have no clue how it will work on ISO files.
>
> It is an exercise in futility.
>
> ----------CUT----------
> amedee at intrepid:~$ sudo aptitude install xdelta
> amedee at intrepid:~$ cd download/
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ wget
>
> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
>
> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
> *snip*
> 723488768   9,84M/s   in 85s
> *snip*
> 732909568   9,74M/s   in 1m 58s
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ xdelta delta ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso jaunty-karmic.delta
> amedee at intrepid:~/download$ ls -hl *.iso *.delta
> -rw-r--r-- 1 amedee amedee 576M jan 20 13:50 jaunty-karmic.delta
> -rw-r--r-- 1 amedee amedee 699M apr 20  2009 ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 amedee amedee 690M okt 28 22:14 ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
> ----------CUT----------
>
> Using a delta for the ISO files would mean a 17% decrease in network
> traffic (from 690MB to 576MB) but a 185% increase in storage (from 690 MB
> to 1965MB), because you would have to keep the old ISO before you can
> apply the path. And Canonical would have to store them on their servers
> too. And they would have to replicate all the diffs to all their mirrors,
> so that would mean a HUGE increase in network traffic. Plus you would need
> checksums for all the diffs. A lot can go wrong in transport.
>
> In other words, the answer is no. Not because is technically impossible,
> but because it isn't practical and hardly worth the effort. As we say in
> Dutch, er zijn nog andere katten te geselen. (There are other cats to whip
> = there are more important things to do)
>
> --
> Amedee Van Gasse
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:18:27 +0200
> From: Rafiq Hajat <ipi.malawi at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Weeding out Duplicate files in Hardy Heron 8.04
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1263997107.5420.49.camel at rafiq-laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>   If your files are in a directory /home/dir/mm, you can try the
>  following:
>
> find /home/dir/mm -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > /tmp/files
>
>  (all has to be typed on a single line) and then
>
> sort /tmp/files | uniq -w 32 -D > /tmp/dupes
>
>  (all has to be typed on a single line). In /tmp/dupes you have
>  the list of duplicate files preprended with its md5 sum. You
>  can look at the list using
>
> less /tmp/dupes
>
>  (type q to quit). If the duplicate list is not too big, you can
>  remove all but one of each "duplicate" (that way you can also
>  visually check if these are names of real duplicate). If you
>  want something more automatic you can try the following:
>
> sum=z;while read md name;
> do
> if [ "$md" = "$sum" ]; then
> rm "$name"
> else
> sum="$md"
> fi
> done < /tmp/dupes
>
>  Warning: if automatically erases files, it may be dangerous.
>
>    Hope this helps,
>
>         Lo?c
>
> Wow....this is pretty far out! I'm gonna give it a shot and see how it
> turns out.
>
> Thanks Loic
>
> Rafiq Hajat
> Executive Director
> The Institute for Policy Interaction (IPI)
> P. O. Box E14,
> Post Dot Net - Blantyre
> Malawi
> Mobile: +265 999 968800
> www.ipimalawi.org
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:16:36 +0300
> From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina at gulfsat.mg>
> Subject: Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20100120171636.797c67e2 at pbmiha.malagasy.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> >>> Gilles Gravier<ggravier at fsfe.org>  :
> >>> Intel and AMD are the same... Just that Intel is usually used to
> >>> refer to 32 bit architectures and AMD to 64 bit architectures.
> > > No. Completely wrong.
> > > - i386, i686... for 32bits (Intel or AMD)
> > > - amd64 for 64bits (Intel or AMD)
> > You say it yourself "amd64" for 64 bits. I used the term "AMD to 64
> > bit architectures"
>
> But peploe may and can use amd64 on Core2Duos ans Xeons.
>
> "AMD" (just those 3 letters) does not refer to 64 bits. It's "amd64" in
> the package arch name that refers to 64 bits CPUs (Both Intel and AMD)
>
> > And you say it yourself "i386" for 32 bits. I say "Just that Intel is
> > usually used to refer to 32 bit".
>
> AMD Duron and some Athlon are 32 bits.
>
> > You say I'm wrong yet you say the same thing as I do (albeit with
> > different phrasing.
>
> In my opinion, you were not really precise enough.
>
> --
>       Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat:
>    Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement
>                +261 34 29 155 34 / +261 33 11 207 36
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:22:08 -0700
> From: "Karl F. Larsen" <klarsen1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 203
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4B571190.8090103 at gmail.com>
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>
> Chris G wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 04:51:27PM -0700, Karl F. Larsen wrote:
> >>      Sorry, what I want to do is understand your computer.
> >>
> >> 73 is Morse code for Best Wishes
> >>
> > 73 isn't morse code for anything, morse code is dots and dashes.
>
>        73 sent using morse code is a group of dits and dahs that has
> only 10 of them. To a qualified Ham CW operator he/she hears
> this and is trained to know it is a "best wishes and good bye
> for now" which is about 40 dits and dahs.
>
>        To most people it means a secret code and they wonder what it
> means, if anything.
>
> 73 Karl
>
>
>
>
>  What
> > you actually mean is that 73 is an abbreviation used in (mostly)
> > amateur radio circles to reduce the amount of morse code dots and
> > dashes required to say 'best wishes and goodbye', it's often used when
> > signing off and saying goodbye to someone.  It became so well known
> > that it's used when *spoken* as well.
> >
>
>
> --
>
>        Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
>        Linux User
>        #450462   http://counter.li.org.
>         Key ID = 3951B48D
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:23:45 +0100
> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1263997425.2896.212.camel at osiris.example.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> hi,
> Am Montag, den 18.01.2010, 00:53 -0800 schrieb giovanni_re:
> > Is there an breakdown analysis by size of the major categories of the
> files on the ISOs?
> look at the manifest file for the iso and write a grep-dcontrol script
> (or some apt-cheche stuff) that parses the file and gets you the package
> sizes ...
>
> alternatively there is the germinate tool that operates on top of the
> seeds used to create the images and can spit out tables with sizes ...
>
> ciao
>        oli
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:41:49 -0500
> From: "LN Smith" <smith at mbsairport.org>
> Subject: Help!
> To: <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> I am starting to get frustrated with this ubuntu operating system! I
> received this HP Mini 1000 as a gift with ubuntu installed on it. When I
> was
> out at a wifi location to receive the internet, it wanted to update the
> software so I figured what the hack! Right and update is a good thing! It
> will give me 9.0 upgrade and things will go good! BOY was I wrong!
>
>
>
>            First thing that happened is that I lost my connection before it
> was completely finished. The program did not want to come back, finally I
> downloaded the 9.0 onto a USB stick and installed it that way! Problem over
> right? WRONG!  I lost the drivers for the Broadcom 43 drivers to connect
> wireless to the internet! And can not connect to the internet with my cell
> phone because it will not recognize the drivers for my Motorola V9mm phone!
>
>
>
>            Does any one have any suggestion? I would really like to get the
> drivers back on the wireless BCM 4312 802.11b/g so I can at least connect
> to
> the internet! I have tried to reinstall them and download them but they
> will
> still not recognize them. Tried to install the fwcutter tool and activate
> the file for the drivers but it times out or tells that it is corrupted!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> LN Smith
>
>
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