<div dir="ltr">hello good people, Is there a way to search this tremendous <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lists.ubuntu.com</a> for past questions-answers ? 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Beginner Q1: Linux incapable of handling FDD? CONCLUDED (Fajar Priyanto) 2. Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites (Gilles Gravier) 3. Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff? (Amedee Van Gasse (ub)) 4. Re: Weeding out Duplicate files in Hardy Heron 8.04 (Rafiq Hajat) 5. Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites (Mihamina Rakotomandimby) 6. Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 203 (Karl F. Larsen) 7. Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff? (Oliver Grawert) 8. Help! (LN Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:49:37 +0800 From: Fajar Priyanto <<a href="mailto:fajarpri@arinet.org">fajarpri@arinet.org</a>> Subject: Re: Beginner Q1: Linux incapable of handling FDD? CONCLUDED To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:574d6c741001200549g5f56c2a0i681ee06dcb695b64@mail.gmail.com">574d6c741001200549g5f56c2a0i681ee06dcb695b64@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz <<a href="mailto:thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp">thomas@s7.dion.ne.jp</a>> wrote: > Good evening > Thank you for all your advice. > Apparently many people CAN use floppys - I cannot; after trying for > several months. > > "When you say you can't get your Floppy diosk drive to work in Linux > what exactly are you trying to do with it?" -> Just pop a FD in, read, > write, maybe format it, pop it out. That's it. I have some trick regarding floppy. No need to open terminal, sudo mount etc etc.... This is how: 1. Right Click on the Task Bar (Panel) 2. Add to Panel 3. Select "Disk Mounter" 4. Voila, it will show an icon on the Panel for floppy. 5. Insert the Floppy disk and click on the icon> Mount floppy 6. When done, click on the icon again... Umount floppy. What's best... It works for all other mountable: flashdisk, external hdd, CD/DVD, etc.. :) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:53:13 +0100 From: Gilles Gravier <<a href="mailto:ggravier@fsfe.org">ggravier@fsfe.org</a>> Subject: Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Cc: Mihamina Rakotomandimby <<a href="mailto:mihamina@gulfsat.mg">mihamina@gulfsat.mg</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4B570AC9.60204@fsfe.org">4B570AC9.60204@fsfe.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi! On 20/01/2010 14:44, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >> Gilles Gravier<<a href="mailto:ggravier@fsfe.org">ggravier@fsfe.org</a>> : >> Intel and AMD are the same... Just that Intel is usually used to >> refer to 32 bit architectures and AMD to 64 bit architectures. >> > No. Completely wrong. > - i386, i686... for 32bits (Intel or AMD) > - amd64 for 64bits (Intel or AMD) > You say it yourself "amd64" for 64 bits. I used the term "AMD to 64 bit architectures" And you say it yourself "i386" for 32 bits. I say "Just that Intel is usually used to refer to 32 bit". You say I'm wrong yet you say the same thing as I do (albeit with different phrasing. Gilles. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:57:17 +0100 (CET) From: "Amedee Van Gasse (ub)" <<a href="mailto:amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be">amedee-ubuntu@amedee.be</a>> Subject: Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff? To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:b143ad5cc22e32597a32fcb6eceda924.squirrel@amedee.be">b143ad5cc22e32597a32fcb6eceda924.squirrel@amedee.be</a>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Because the question was multiposted, I have to multipost my answer. Sorry if you read it before, I'll combine it on one email. On Mon, January 18, 2010 09:53, giovanni_re wrote: > Is there an breakdown analysis by size of the major categories of the > files on the ISOs? > > Like, every component that is >1% of the size? Like, Kernel, GUI, > Applications, & breakdown for some of the major applications, like OO, FF, > whatever? > > If it doesn't exist, could someone do that analysis quickly? Can it be > done easily? Could you do it? if so, TIA :) This is how far I got: ----------CUT---------- amedee@intrepid:~/download$ mkdir -p /tmp/karmic amedee@intrepid:~/download$ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso /tmp/karmic amedee@intrepid:~/download$ sudo aptitude install squashfs-tools amedee@intrepid:~/download$ apt-cache search squashfs squashfs-modules-2.6-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6-openvz-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6-vserver-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6.26 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-openvz-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6.26 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6.26 on AMD64 squashfs-modules-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 - Compression filesystem for Linux 2.6.26 on AMD64 squashfs-source - Source for the squash filesystem live-initramfs - Debian Live initramfs hook squashfs-tools-dbg - Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems (debug) squashfs-tools - Tool to create and append to squashfs filesystems amedee@intrepid:~/download$ uname -r 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 amedee@intrepid:~/download$ sudo aptitude install squashfs-modules-2.6-xen-amd64 amedee@intrepid:~/download$ sudo modprobe squashfs amedee@intrepid:~/download$ lsmod | grep squash squashfs 40336 0 zlib_inflate 18944 2 squashfs,isofs amedee@intrepid:~/download$ mkdir -p /tmp/karmic-squashfs amedee@intrepid:~/download$ sudo mount /tmp/karmic/casper/filesystem.squashfs /tmp/karmic-squashfs -t squashfs mount: /tmp/karmic/casper/filesystem.squashfs is geen blok-apparaat (misschien '-o loop' proberen?) amedee@intrepid:~/download$ sudo mount /tmp/karmic/casper/filesystem.squashfs /tmp/karmic-squashfs -t squashfs -o loop mount: onjuiste bestandssysteemsoort, ongeldige optie, ontbrekende codepagina, ontbrekend hulpprogramma, slecht superblok op /dev/loop1, of een andere fout Soms staat er nuttige informatie in het systeemlog -- probeer zoiets als: dmesg | tail amedee@intrepid:~/download$ dmesg | tail [11236478.952075] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=85.17.73.36 DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=27588 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4324 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 [11236481.966756] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=85.17.73.36 DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=28944 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=4324 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 [11236500.876868] loop: module loaded [11236501.004036] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 [11236501.035969] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A [11236923.474303] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=198.63.210.173 DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=116 ID=892 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3014 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 [11236926.471165] Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:16:3e:df:76:94:fe:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:08:00 SRC=198.63.210.173 DST=188.40.34.110 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=116 ID=3853 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3014 DPT=8443 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 [11237015.859457] squashfs: version 3.3-CVS (2008/04/04) Phillip Lougher [11237260.576381] SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, trying to mount newer 4.0 filesystem [11237260.576391] SQUASHFS error: Please update your kernel ----------CUT---------- Like, meh... Could anyone please try to mount the squashfs filesystem on the iso with the correct version of squashfs? I don't want to frak up my precious Debian box. Once it's mounted, it is just a simple matter of using du. Probably something like du /tmp/karmic-squashfs | sort -n | head -n 50 That would give you a list of the 50 biggest files inside the squashed filesystem on the iso. It would probably need a bit of refinement somewhere, but that's how I would approach this question. > Also, is it possible to diff the different ISOs, so that if you have one > already, & want one other, you don't have to dl all 700MB, just the diff? > Like, between 9.10 Ub & KUb for x86? >> No. > > I think you are wrong. There are programs that can diff binary files, > for example xdelta. Is this not what he ask for? I haven't used xdelta > and have no clue how it will work on ISO files. It is an exercise in futility. ----------CUT---------- amedee@intrepid:~$ sudo aptitude install xdelta amedee@intrepid:~$ cd download/ amedee@intrepid:~/download$ wget <a href="http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso" target="_blank">http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso</a> <a href="http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso" target="_blank">http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso</a> *snip* 723488768 9,84M/s in 85s *snip* 732909568 9,74M/s in 1m 58s amedee@intrepid:~/download$ xdelta delta ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso jaunty-karmic.delta amedee@intrepid:~/download$ ls -hl *.iso *.delta -rw-r--r-- 1 amedee amedee 576M jan 20 13:50 jaunty-karmic.delta -rw-r--r-- 1 amedee amedee 699M apr 20 2009 ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 amedee amedee 690M okt 28 22:14 ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso ----------CUT---------- Using a delta for the ISO files would mean a 17% decrease in network traffic (from 690MB to 576MB) but a 185% increase in storage (from 690 MB to 1965MB), because you would have to keep the old ISO before you can apply the path. And Canonical would have to store them on their servers too. And they would have to replicate all the diffs to all their mirrors, so that would mean a HUGE increase in network traffic. Plus you would need checksums for all the diffs. A lot can go wrong in transport. In other words, the answer is no. Not because is technically impossible, but because it isn't practical and hardly worth the effort. As we say in Dutch, er zijn nog andere katten te geselen. (There are other cats to whip = there are more important things to do) -- Amedee Van Gasse ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:18:27 +0200 From: Rafiq Hajat <<a href="mailto:ipi.malawi@gmail.com">ipi.malawi@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Weeding out Duplicate files in Hardy Heron 8.04 To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <1263997107.5420.49.camel@rafiq-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" If your files are in a directory /home/dir/mm, you can try the following: find /home/dir/mm -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > /tmp/files (all has to be typed on a single line) and then sort /tmp/files | uniq -w 32 -D > /tmp/dupes (all has to be typed on a single line). In /tmp/dupes you have the list of duplicate files preprended with its md5 sum. You can look at the list using less /tmp/dupes (type q to quit). If the duplicate list is not too big, you can remove all but one of each "duplicate" (that way you can also visually check if these are names of real duplicate). If you want something more automatic you can try the following: sum=z;while read md name; do if [ "$md" = "$sum" ]; then rm "$name" else sum="$md" fi done < /tmp/dupes Warning: if automatically erases files, it may be dangerous. Hope this helps, Lo?c Wow....this is pretty far out! I'm gonna give it a shot and see how it turns out. Thanks Loic Rafiq Hajat Executive Director The Institute for Policy Interaction (IPI) P. O. Box E14, Post Dot Net - Blantyre Malawi Mobile: +265 999 968800 <a href="http://www.ipimalawi.org" target="_blank">www.ipimalawi.org</a> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:16:36 +0300 From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby <<a href="mailto:mihamina@gulfsat.mg">mihamina@gulfsat.mg</a>> Subject: Re: Chrome in Karmic facilitates access to irksome sites To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20100120171636.797c67e2@pbmiha.malagasy.com">20100120171636.797c67e2@pbmiha.malagasy.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> Gilles Gravier<<a href="mailto:ggravier@fsfe.org">ggravier@fsfe.org</a>> : >>> Intel and AMD are the same... Just that Intel is usually used to >>> refer to 32 bit architectures and AMD to 64 bit architectures. > > No. Completely wrong. > > - i386, i686... for 32bits (Intel or AMD) > > - amd64 for 64bits (Intel or AMD) > You say it yourself "amd64" for 64 bits. I used the term "AMD to 64 > bit architectures" But peploe may and can use amd64 on Core2Duos ans Xeons. "AMD" (just those 3 letters) does not refer to 64 bits. It's "amd64" in the package arch name that refers to 64 bits CPUs (Both Intel and AMD) > And you say it yourself "i386" for 32 bits. I say "Just that Intel is > usually used to refer to 32 bit". AMD Duron and some Athlon are 32 bits. > You say I'm wrong yet you say the same thing as I do (albeit with > different phrasing. In my opinion, you were not really precise enough. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 34 29 155 34 / +261 33 11 207 36 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:22:08 -0700 From: "Karl F. Larsen" <<a href="mailto:klarsen1@gmail.com">klarsen1@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 203 To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4B571190.8090103@gmail.com">4B571190.8090103@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Chris G wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 04:51:27PM -0700, Karl F. Larsen wrote: >> Sorry, what I want to do is understand your computer. >> >> 73 is Morse code for Best Wishes >> > 73 isn't morse code for anything, morse code is dots and dashes. 73 sent using morse code is a group of dits and dahs that has only 10 of them. To a qualified Ham CW operator he/she hears this and is trained to know it is a "best wishes and good bye for now" which is about 40 dits and dahs. To most people it means a secret code and they wonder what it means, if anything. 73 Karl What > you actually mean is that 73 is an abbreviation used in (mostly) > amateur radio circles to reduce the amount of morse code dots and > dashes required to say 'best wishes and goodbye', it's often used when > signing off and saying goodbye to someone. It became so well known > that it's used when *spoken* as well. > -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">http://counter.li.org</a>. Key ID = 3951B48D ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:23:45 +0100 From: Oliver Grawert <<a href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: ISO size breakdown? ISO diff? To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1263997425.2896.212.camel@osiris.example.org">1263997425.2896.212.camel@osiris.example.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" hi, Am Montag, den 18.01.2010, 00:53 -0800 schrieb giovanni_re: > Is there an breakdown analysis by size of the major categories of the files on the ISOs? look at the manifest file for the iso and write a grep-dcontrol script (or some apt-cheche stuff) that parses the file and gets you the package sizes ... alternatively there is the germinate tool that operates on top of the seeds used to create the images and can spit out tables with sizes ... ciao oli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right and update is a good thing! It will give me 9.0 upgrade and things will go good! BOY was I wrong! First thing that happened is that I lost my connection before it was completely finished. The program did not want to come back, finally I downloaded the 9.0 onto a USB stick and installed it that way! Problem over right? WRONG! I lost the drivers for the Broadcom 43 drivers to connect wireless to the internet! And can not connect to the internet with my cell phone because it will not recognize the drivers for my Motorola V9mm phone! Does any one have any suggestion? I would really like to get the drivers back on the wireless BCM 4312 802.11b/g so I can at least connect to the internet! I have tried to reinstall them and download them but they will still not recognize them. Tried to install the fwcutter tool and activate the file for the drivers but it times out or tells that it is corrupted! Thanks LN Smith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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