question about mailing lists license ,

a dehqan dehqan65 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 3 03:53:14 UTC 2009


In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful

Good day everyone ;
Thanks everyone for attentions ;
Thanks a lot Graham Todd  for your good answer ;
Graham Todd  ,see Iran law opinion is not required ,our religion Eslam  says
you can copy a person wealth/writens while he/she allows you , cause of this
it is required to know should we ask just from writer of post here for
permission OR not , we should ask from list admin for permission
You say that the list owner does not hold copyright and individual posters
hold copyright to their posts , If so we should just ask permission from
writer . To be sure 100% , would you give a voucher that list does not have
any copyright for posts/mails ?

Regards dehqan

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:40 AM, <grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:20:07 +0330
> a dehqan <dehqan65 at gmail.com> uttered these words:
>
> > Do mailing list own person
> > answer copyright ? please give a voucher for your claim .
> [snipped]
>
> A little bit of googling would have given you this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_in_Iran
>
> As I understand it, you are asking if the list owner holds copyright or
> individual posters hold copyright to their posts.  The answer is
> simple: the United States and Britain are signatories to the Berne
> Convention and have domestic legislation binding them to that
> Convention: the differences of the actual copyright provisions in the
> domestic legislation.  Knowing the intricacies of copyright law is the
> province of lawyers, for although the Berne Convention allows a certain
> minimum, the actual provisions may depend on the domestic legislation
> in force.
>
> Now, I understand you are hoping to write a book on Ubuntu, to be
> published in Iran or for Iranians.  Iran is currently *NOT* a signatory
> to the Berne Convention, the WIPO Copyright Treaty, or the World Trade
> Organisation (WTO) which has some recommendations that member states
> should pass into domestic legislation, but as Iran is not a member,
> these recommendations do not apply there.
>
> Iran does have some laws on copyright, but these apply to works written
> in Iran *only*; works coming from outside Iran are not copyrightable
> within Iran.  This list is registered as coming from the United States,
> and therefore cannot be copyrighted in Iran; if your book is written in
> Iran, I would suggest requesting permission to reproduce any
> information you get from each post you wish to reproduce, but also
> consulting an Iranian copyright law specialist.  If you are writing the
> book outside Iran, it will not have copyright in Iran; however,
> Creative Commons licences *MAY* be enforceable in Iran, and this *MAY*
> be an alternative way to go, but it requires an Iranian lawyer to make
> sure.
>
> Finally, to your substantive question: is the list owner the person who
> has the copyright of this list.  In countries who are signatories to
> the Berne Convention *AND* had the provisions pass into domestic
> legislation, it is the the writers of the post who hold copyright.  For
> other jurisdictions, you will have to consult a local specialist in
> copyright law.
>
> --
> Graham Todd
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>
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