<div dir="ltr">In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks everyone for attentions ; Thanks a lot Graham Todd for your good answer ; Graham Todd ,see Iran law opinion is not required ,our religion Eslam says you can copy a person wealth/writens while he/she allows you , cause of this it is required to know should we ask just from writer of post here for permission OR not , we should ask from list admin for permission You say that the list owner does not hold copyright and individual posters hold copyright to their posts , If so we should just ask permission from writer . To be sure 100% , would you give a voucher that list does not have any copyright for posts/mails ? Regards dehqan <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:40 AM, <<a href="mailto:grahamtodd2@googlemail.com">grahamtodd2@googlemail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:20:07 +0330 a dehqan <<a href="mailto:dehqan65@gmail.com">dehqan65@gmail.com</a>> uttered these words: <div class="im"> > Do mailing list own person > answer copyright ? please give a voucher for your claim . </div>[snipped] A little bit of googling would have given you this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_in_Iran" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_in_Iran</a> As I understand it, you are asking if the list owner holds copyright or individual posters hold copyright to their posts. The answer is simple: the United States and Britain are signatories to the Berne Convention and have domestic legislation binding them to that Convention: the differences of the actual copyright provisions in the domestic legislation. Knowing the intricacies of copyright law is the province of lawyers, for although the Berne Convention allows a certain minimum, the actual provisions may depend on the domestic legislation in force. Now, I understand you are hoping to write a book on Ubuntu, to be published in Iran or for Iranians. Iran is currently *NOT* a signatory to the Berne Convention, the WIPO Copyright Treaty, or the World Trade Organisation (WTO) which has some recommendations that member states should pass into domestic legislation, but as Iran is not a member, these recommendations do not apply there. Iran does have some laws on copyright, but these apply to works written in Iran *only*; works coming from outside Iran are not copyrightable within Iran. This list is registered as coming from the United States, and therefore cannot be copyrighted in Iran; if your book is written in Iran, I would suggest requesting permission to reproduce any information you get from each post you wish to reproduce, but also consulting an Iranian copyright law specialist. If you are writing the book outside Iran, it will not have copyright in Iran; however, Creative Commons licences *MAY* be enforceable in Iran, and this *MAY* be an alternative way to go, but it requires an Iranian lawyer to make sure. Finally, to your substantive question: is the list owner the person who has the copyright of this list. In countries who are signatories to the Berne Convention *AND* had the provisions pass into domestic legislation, it is the the writers of the post who hold copyright. For other jurisdictions, you will have to consult a local specialist in copyright law. -- Graham Todd Please, no MS-Office documents - <a href="http://linux.sgms-centre.com/advocacy/no-ms-office.php" target="_blank">http://linux.sgms-centre.com/advocacy/no-ms-office.php</a> The contents of this email are licenced under the Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike 2.0 UK: England & Wales License. To view a copy of this licence, visit <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/uk/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/uk/</a> <div><div></div><div class="h5"> -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>