ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 57, Issue 91

Jaspreet Singh me at jassi.info
Thu May 7 10:41:11 UTC 2009


Alright, first of all, STOP SENDING DIGEST JUNK on this list.
Now, as for your query.....
As if now apple doesn't make any application for unix family operating
systems.... but there are alternatives available...

for example banshee, rhythmbox, Amarok, and gtkpod are quite good multimedia
management consoles..

please do consider NOT SENDING ANY MORE DIGEST JUNK on this list anymore...

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Gaurav Sharma <me at gauravmail.info> wrote:

> how do i install itunes on ubuntu
> can anyone tell me please
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:56 PM, <ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:
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>>   1. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
>>      for       governance (marc)
>>   2. Re: Free (as in freedom) pdf editor (Graham Todd)
>>   3. Re: Mailing list woes (marc)
>>   4. Re: How can I make my scanner permissions permanent?
>>      (Heike C. Zimmerer)
>>   5. Re: Mailing list woes (marc)
>>   6. Re: Interesting suggestions about quoting and posting (marc)
>>   7. Re: Sound Problems (marc)
>>   8. Re: Wubi Install: was Re: (unknown) (Charlie Gray)
>>   9. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
>>      for       governance (Oliver Grawert)
>>  10. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
>>      for       governance (Oliver Grawert)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
>> Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
>>        for     governance
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <gtu20s$c6$2 at ger.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Lisi Reisz said:
>>
>> > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 20:36:58 David Fox wrote:
>> >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Barry Smith <bnsmith001 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > One point to think about -- if "ass" in in the badword list, should
>> >> > it also match A.s.S. or any substring created after punctuation is
>> >> > removed? ?Moderation, and automated scanning, should include the full
>> >>
>> >> A precedent exists that makes this filtering stuff undesirable. There
>> >> was a time when Prodigy was in vogue (anyone remember them) and one
>> >> person in particular got really upset because he couldn't tell people
>> >> on Prodigy that his family member graduated "magna cum laude" from a
>> >> university -- because the posting had the word "cum" in it. Sheesh.
>> >
>> > In England we have counties (administrative districts) called Middlesex,
>> > Essex and Sussex.  (Wessex is now obsolete.)  Woe betide any schoolchild
>> > who is trying to use the Internet for his or her homework if the subject
>> > is the geography (or history or sport) of the Saxon area of England. The
>> > usual solution is to let the child use the (unprotected) parental
>> > computer. ;-) (The north Saxons called themselves the north folk rather
>> > than the north Saxons, so Norfolk slips under the net.)
>> >
>> > So I am not in favour of using that type of screening software on this
>> > list!
>>
>> Obligatory mention of Scunthorpe.
>>
>> The whole idea of banning words is just silly. And banning substrings
>> bonkers.
>>
>> I find it hard to understand why we are even discussiong this.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:01:38 +0100
>> From: Graham Todd <grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Free (as in freedom) pdf editor
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20090507090138.0f727789 at graham-desktop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> On Wed, 06 May 2009 15:47:36 -0700
>> NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I've certainly no objection for paying for a well written linux
>> > program (I use Turboprint printer drivers) do you?
>> [snipped]
>>
>> I do not.
>>
>> Whilst I have no problem, in principle, for paying for Linux software,
>> most that you pay for are restricted by the licence and terms of use.
>>
>> The same is true of most "freeware" available for use in Windows - no
>> cost but a restrictive licensing environment - which I do not class as
>> "free".
>>
>> That is the litmus test: can I pass it on to whomsoever I please?  Can
>> I examine its source code to learn more about coding?  Does the
>> software allow me to alter it for my own purposes (even if I do not
>> wish to)?  Nothing in this list you note has anything to do with the
>> cost of the item.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Graham Todd
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:04:17 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mailing list woes
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <gtu4m1$9hh$1 at ger.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Lorenzo Taylor said:
>>
>> > <RANT>
>> > Actually, what I find most annoying about Blackberries and IPhones is
>> > not the posting issue, but rather the stupid advertising taglines that
>> > have no "--" above them that cannot be removed.
>> >
>> > Sent from my IPhone
>> > Sent from my T-Mobile Blackberry.
>> >
>> > Who gives a flying swine flu? Isn't that what the UserAgent: and
>> > X-Mailer: headers are for?
>> >
>> > Is there no way to let these companies know that this is nothing but a
>> > major annoyance and does *not* make me want to go out and buy one of
>> > their devices? In fact, it makes me *not* want to buy them. Back in the
>> > day, I used to avoid all webmail services because they all did that.
>> > Most of them still do, but at least they know how to separate their
>> > taglines from the message. Not that that makes it any better, but at
>> > least they do separate their taglines, unlike these mobile devices.
>> > </RANT>
>>
>> You've not spent much time with marketing droids, have you? :-)
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:04:55 +0200
>> From: "Heike C. Zimmerer" <nospam08q2 at gmx.net>
>> Subject: Re: How can I make my scanner permissions permanent?
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <gtu4u1$d9s$1 at ger.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Tommy Trussell <tommy.trussell at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Heike, if you are running Ubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty," did you upgrade from a
>> > previous version, or is it a clean install?
>>
>> It's an upgrade, so I cannot be of any help as to when the scanner group
>> (dis)appeared.
>>
>> > I'm wondering if I could create a UDEV rule that identifies the device
>> > as a scanner (in addition to a printer). Maybe then the "scanner"
>> > permissions might get created by Ubuntu.
>>
>> This is possible.  Use
>>
>> udevadm info --query=path --attribute-walk
>> --path=/sys/class/usb_device/...
>>
>> (replace the dots, you can also try other queries) to find an expression
>> which matches your scanner better than the current global usblib rule.
>> Then replace the expression around the '==' in the usblib rule by what
>> you've found.
>>
>> Heike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
>> Subject: Re: Mailing list woes
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <gtu4um$9hh$2 at ger.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Markus Sch?nhaber said:
>>
>> > Just two remarks: My "Regards mks" doesn't add
>> > any value to the topic, so there's no point in quoting it.
>>
>> And if your preceded it with dash-dash-space (see below), then most mail
>> and usenet replies would automatically *not* quote it. So it would never
>> be quoted.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:14:46 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
>> Subject: Re: Interesting suggestions about quoting and posting
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <gtu59m$9hh$3 at ger.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Lorenzo Taylor said:
>>
>> > Usually I choose not to quote whenever possible, but instead make my
>> > answer clear enough that the question is very easily deducible from the
>> > reply, usually by paraphrasing or restating the question in the reply,
>> > kinda the same way I have been doing in my Esperanto correspondence
>> > courses.
>>
>> But this is a different form of communication. Heck, when speaking
>> Spanish (at least in Spain), context is presumed way beyond English; one
>> work is often sufficient where I'd use ten in English!
>>
>> The problem with reformatting the thread is that you lose context and the
>> attribution of content. Unless you are making a specific point on an
>> isolated part of the text, then this is a "bad thing", imo.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:23:30 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
>> Subject: Re: Sound Problems
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <gtu5q2$9hh$4 at ger.gmane.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Charlie Gray said:
>>
>> >> If you have a laptop and have no sound through the speakers then check
>> >> for sound through your headphones?  If yes, I can help.  There is a
>> >> well documented fix for this problem in 8.10 and 9.04.
>> >>
>> >> -rich
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Thank you for the reply, but I have just this-minute fixed it :)
>> >
>> > Funnily enough, it was as simple as the sound was muted. But, many sound
>> > programs didn't tell me that, not even alsamixer. Luckily I ran
>> > padevchooser and found out for myself.
>>
>> Yup, I had the same problem. It took me a week to find a "mixer" that
>> indicated that sound was muted, input in my case.
>>
>> I'll say it again: audion in Kubuntu is a complete mess.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:00:18 +0100
>> From: Charlie Gray <cgray at xelix.net>
>> Subject: Re: Wubi Install: was Re: (unknown)
>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>>        <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID: <4A02A322.8040105 at xelix.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> NoOp wrote:
>> > On 05/06/2009 01:55 PM, philipstine at hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> I am trying to install Ubuntu 32 bit OS using Wubi. I currently have
>> >> Windows Vista 32 bit. The instructions on Wubi are not very clear on
>> >> installing the 32 bit Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > These might help:
>> >
>> > http://wubi-installer.org/
>> > http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396526
>> > [Wubi Forum FAQ (read this first)]
>> > http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
>> >
>> > Also Is it possible to run the 64 bit
>> >> version of Ubuntu on a 32 bit system?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No.
>>
>> But do rememember, if your computer come with 32bit Windows Vista, that
>> doesn't imply that the actual computer is 32bit. Generally, even 64bit
>> computers come with 32bit Operating Systems.
>>
>> As 64bit Operating Systems are quite horribly unsupported, as far as I
>> know.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie Gray - <cgray at xelix.net>
>> PGP Key ID - 0xC28B6177
>> ?Ya basta!
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:24:25 +0200
>> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
>>        for     governance
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <1241688265.12126.47.camel at osiris>
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>>
>> hi,
>> Am Donnerstag, den 07.05.2009, 11:29 +1000 schrieb Res:
>> > I don't have that much time, I appear for days on end, then dissapear
>> for
>> > a week or three,
>> thats a lame excuse on a mailing list like that :) and thats essentially
>> why we should have a team, not everybody will be around all the time,
>> the moments where the whole team is needed to make a decision or a vote
>> will be rare i assume, at other times other members of the team will
>> care ...
>>
>> > and you and I both know I have pissed off so many  net
>> > nazis here, Osama Bin Laden has a better chance of being on "the team"
>> > then I :)
>> thats exactly my point, someone like you will care that the team doesnt
>> turn into a power abusing dictatorship but will slap the fingers of the
>> other team members if they go to far ...
>>
>> ciao
>>        oli
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>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:26:48 +0200
>> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
>>        for     governance
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <1241688408.12126.49.camel at osiris>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> hi,
>> Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2009, 13:50 -0400 schrieb Lorenzo Taylor:
>> > The problem I have with unsubscribing repeat offenders who consistently
>> flame
>> > others or get nationalist/racist/inappropriate flame wars started is
>> that there
>> > is nothing to keep them from being able to subscribe a new email address
>> and do
>> > it all again.
>> that is the reason why you need humans in the loop ... a human will spot
>> a certain style of flaming and can act on a re-subscriber while a
>> program/filter/black-/greylist will not ...
>>
>> ciao
>>        oli
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