ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 57, Issue 91
Gaurav Sharma
me at gauravmail.info
Thu May 7 10:31:28 UTC 2009
how do i install itunes on ubuntu
can anyone tell me please
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> 1. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
> for governance (marc)
> 2. Re: Free (as in freedom) pdf editor (Graham Todd)
> 3. Re: Mailing list woes (marc)
> 4. Re: How can I make my scanner permissions permanent?
> (Heike C. Zimmerer)
> 5. Re: Mailing list woes (marc)
> 6. Re: Interesting suggestions about quoting and posting (marc)
> 7. Re: Sound Problems (marc)
> 8. Re: Wubi Install: was Re: (unknown) (Charlie Gray)
> 9. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
> for governance (Oliver Grawert)
> 10. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
> for governance (Oliver Grawert)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
> Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
> for governance
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Lisi Reisz said:
>
> > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 20:36:58 David Fox wrote:
> >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Barry Smith <bnsmith001 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > One point to think about -- if "ass" in in the badword list, should
> >> > it also match A.s.S. or any substring created after punctuation is
> >> > removed? ?Moderation, and automated scanning, should include the full
> >>
> >> A precedent exists that makes this filtering stuff undesirable. There
> >> was a time when Prodigy was in vogue (anyone remember them) and one
> >> person in particular got really upset because he couldn't tell people
> >> on Prodigy that his family member graduated "magna cum laude" from a
> >> university -- because the posting had the word "cum" in it. Sheesh.
> >
> > In England we have counties (administrative districts) called Middlesex,
> > Essex and Sussex. (Wessex is now obsolete.) Woe betide any schoolchild
> > who is trying to use the Internet for his or her homework if the subject
> > is the geography (or history or sport) of the Saxon area of England. The
> > usual solution is to let the child use the (unprotected) parental
> > computer. ;-) (The north Saxons called themselves the north folk rather
> > than the north Saxons, so Norfolk slips under the net.)
> >
> > So I am not in favour of using that type of screening software on this
> > list!
>
> Obligatory mention of Scunthorpe.
>
> The whole idea of banning words is just silly. And banning substrings
> bonkers.
>
> I find it hard to understand why we are even discussiong this.
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:01:38 +0100
> From: Graham Todd <grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: Free (as in freedom) pdf editor
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20090507090138.0f727789 at graham-desktop>
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> On Wed, 06 May 2009 15:47:36 -0700
> NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > I've certainly no objection for paying for a well written linux
> > program (I use Turboprint printer drivers) do you?
> [snipped]
>
> I do not.
>
> Whilst I have no problem, in principle, for paying for Linux software,
> most that you pay for are restricted by the licence and terms of use.
>
> The same is true of most "freeware" available for use in Windows - no
> cost but a restrictive licensing environment - which I do not class as
> "free".
>
> That is the litmus test: can I pass it on to whomsoever I please? Can
> I examine its source code to learn more about coding? Does the
> software allow me to alter it for my own purposes (even if I do not
> wish to)? Nothing in this list you note has anything to do with the
> cost of the item.
>
> --
>
> Graham Todd
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:04:17 +0000 (UTC)
> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list woes
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Lorenzo Taylor said:
>
> > <RANT>
> > Actually, what I find most annoying about Blackberries and IPhones is
> > not the posting issue, but rather the stupid advertising taglines that
> > have no "--" above them that cannot be removed.
> >
> > Sent from my IPhone
> > Sent from my T-Mobile Blackberry.
> >
> > Who gives a flying swine flu? Isn't that what the UserAgent: and
> > X-Mailer: headers are for?
> >
> > Is there no way to let these companies know that this is nothing but a
> > major annoyance and does *not* make me want to go out and buy one of
> > their devices? In fact, it makes me *not* want to buy them. Back in the
> > day, I used to avoid all webmail services because they all did that.
> > Most of them still do, but at least they know how to separate their
> > taglines from the message. Not that that makes it any better, but at
> > least they do separate their taglines, unlike these mobile devices.
> > </RANT>
>
> You've not spent much time with marketing droids, have you? :-)
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:04:55 +0200
> From: "Heike C. Zimmerer" <nospam08q2 at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: How can I make my scanner permissions permanent?
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Tommy Trussell <tommy.trussell at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Heike, if you are running Ubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty," did you upgrade from a
> > previous version, or is it a clean install?
>
> It's an upgrade, so I cannot be of any help as to when the scanner group
> (dis)appeared.
>
> > I'm wondering if I could create a UDEV rule that identifies the device
> > as a scanner (in addition to a printer). Maybe then the "scanner"
> > permissions might get created by Ubuntu.
>
> This is possible. Use
>
> udevadm info --query=path --attribute-walk --path=/sys/class/usb_device/...
>
> (replace the dots, you can also try other queries) to find an expression
> which matches your scanner better than the current global usblib rule.
> Then replace the expression around the '==' in the usblib rule by what
> you've found.
>
> Heike
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC)
> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
> Subject: Re: Mailing list woes
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Markus Sch?nhaber said:
>
> > Just two remarks: My "Regards mks" doesn't add
> > any value to the topic, so there's no point in quoting it.
>
> And if your preceded it with dash-dash-space (see below), then most mail
> and usenet replies would automatically *not* quote it. So it would never
> be quoted.
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:14:46 +0000 (UTC)
> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
> Subject: Re: Interesting suggestions about quoting and posting
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <gtu59m$9hh$3 at ger.gmane.org>
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>
> Lorenzo Taylor said:
>
> > Usually I choose not to quote whenever possible, but instead make my
> > answer clear enough that the question is very easily deducible from the
> > reply, usually by paraphrasing or restating the question in the reply,
> > kinda the same way I have been doing in my Esperanto correspondence
> > courses.
>
> But this is a different form of communication. Heck, when speaking
> Spanish (at least in Spain), context is presumed way beyond English; one
> work is often sufficient where I'd use ten in English!
>
> The problem with reformatting the thread is that you lose context and the
> attribution of content. Unless you are making a specific point on an
> isolated part of the text, then this is a "bad thing", imo.
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:23:30 +0000 (UTC)
> From: marc <gmane at auxbuss.com>
> Subject: Re: Sound Problems
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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>
> Charlie Gray said:
>
> >> If you have a laptop and have no sound through the speakers then check
> >> for sound through your headphones? If yes, I can help. There is a
> >> well documented fix for this problem in 8.10 and 9.04.
> >>
> >> -rich
> >>
> >>
> > Thank you for the reply, but I have just this-minute fixed it :)
> >
> > Funnily enough, it was as simple as the sound was muted. But, many sound
> > programs didn't tell me that, not even alsamixer. Luckily I ran
> > padevchooser and found out for myself.
>
> Yup, I had the same problem. It took me a week to find a "mixer" that
> indicated that sound was muted, input in my case.
>
> I'll say it again: audion in Kubuntu is a complete mess.
>
> --
> Best,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:00:18 +0100
> From: Charlie Gray <cgray at xelix.net>
> Subject: Re: Wubi Install: was Re: (unknown)
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A02A322.8040105 at xelix.net>
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>
> NoOp wrote:
> > On 05/06/2009 01:55 PM, philipstine at hotmail.com wrote:
> >> I am trying to install Ubuntu 32 bit OS using Wubi. I currently have
> >> Windows Vista 32 bit. The instructions on Wubi are not very clear on
> >> installing the 32 bit Ubuntu.
> >
> > These might help:
> >
> > http://wubi-installer.org/
> > http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396526
> > [Wubi Forum FAQ (read this first)]
> > http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
> >
> > Also Is it possible to run the 64 bit
> >> version of Ubuntu on a 32 bit system?
> >>
> >
> > No.
>
> But do rememember, if your computer come with 32bit Windows Vista, that
> doesn't imply that the actual computer is 32bit. Generally, even 64bit
> computers come with 32bit Operating Systems.
>
> As 64bit Operating Systems are quite horribly unsupported, as far as I
> know.
>
>
> --
> Charlie Gray - <cgray at xelix.net>
> PGP Key ID - 0xC28B6177
> ?Ya basta!
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:24:25 +0200
> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
> for governance
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> hi,
> Am Donnerstag, den 07.05.2009, 11:29 +1000 schrieb Res:
> > I don't have that much time, I appear for days on end, then dissapear for
> > a week or three,
> thats a lame excuse on a mailing list like that :) and thats essentially
> why we should have a team, not everybody will be around all the time,
> the moments where the whole team is needed to make a decision or a vote
> will be rare i assume, at other times other members of the team will
> care ...
>
> > and you and I both know I have pissed off so many net
> > nazis here, Osama Bin Laden has a better chance of being on "the team"
> > then I :)
> thats exactly my point, someone like you will care that the team doesnt
> turn into a power abusing dictatorship but will slap the fingers of the
> other team members if they go to far ...
>
> ciao
> oli
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:26:48 +0200
> From: Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
> for governance
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> hi,
> Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2009, 13:50 -0400 schrieb Lorenzo Taylor:
> > The problem I have with unsubscribing repeat offenders who consistently
> flame
> > others or get nationalist/racist/inappropriate flame wars started is that
> there
> > is nothing to keep them from being able to subscribe a new email address
> and do
> > it all again.
> that is the reason why you need humans in the loop ... a human will spot
> a certain style of flaming and can act on a re-subscriber while a
> program/filter/black-/greylist will not ...
>
> ciao
> oli
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