And another Ubuntu convert!

Mario Vukelic mario.vukelic at
Wed Jan 21 23:05:02 UTC 2009

On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 14:31 -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> >
> My point wasn't that the virus was common or that it was something to be 
> afraid of. I just found it interesting that it was first detected in 
> 1996 (the same year that Karl started using Linux).

Detected but never seen in the wild.

> I don't understand the opposition to anti virus. What does it hurt to 
> have it?

That's because you don't know how it works, obviously.

>  It will take a few cpu cycles and a little of bandwidth.

No. by necessity such products need to embed themselves deep into the
OS, adding complexity and bugs. ClamAV is one thing, just scanning
emails, but the pro-AV crowd won't stop there and will soon demand
anti-spyware and whatnot.

Anyone who is forced to run such stuff (I am, at the company) know that
it is NOT about "a few cpu cycles". It also gives a false sense of
security. Clueless people at the company still get affected despite all
the stuff running.

>  The 
> other thing to note is that many of the viruses that affect Linux aren't 
> Linux specific. Attacks will/have come through Firefox, Open Office and 
> other multi-platforms. Instead of your system being killed like it would 
> were it running Windows it will only ruin your user account but as far 
> as I am concerned that will screw me just as much.

That might be true, but I fail to see how AV would help there. It
doesn't on Windows.

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