MSI: Don't buy our webcam

Douglas Pollard dougpol1 at verizon.net
Fri Aug 28 15:02:34 UTC 2009


Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> You were likely talking to someone in India that does not know anything
>> about the product other than what they have rehearsed.
>>     
>
> I doubt that. I have spoken with enough Indians and Panamanians in
> dealing with Dell that I know Indian English. I know American English
> as well and that MSI rep was an American or lived enough time in the
> US to fool me. And I am not American, by the way, but Middle Eastern,
> so I have no culture bias here.
>
>
>   
>>  I don't think
>> they mean to be rude but when you get beyond their list of answers they
>> are reluctant to say much for fear of saying the wrong thing and getting
>> in trouble.  I agree   that is a lack of response and all these
>> companies want to do is unload  your questions or complaints   to some
>> place where they don't want to hear about it.
>>     
>
> I asked him to defer my concern to a body with more authority, he
> refused and likely lied to me as well.
>
>
>   
>>  The companies that make
>> that stuff generally don't know anything about Linux, they have no idea
>> about linux drivers and what is avilable.  If you can't get these
>> answers in the Linux community you likely won't get them.  There just
>> aren't enough Linux users for them try to cater to us.  There isn't
>> enough money in it.   Take heart it's getting better.
>>
>>     
>
> I see your point. As I would like to communicate with distant family
> with a webcam, which operating system would you recommend that makes
> that easy for me, a simple user, to do?
>
>
> It is our responsibility as a community to contact these companies and
> express interest in Linux support. Surely they will not support Linux
> if we _don't_ express interest.
>
>   
    I feel like they may well not support Linux with their hardware no 
mater what we ask them to do.  There job is to make money and not much 
else.  So if we further the use of Linux and increase the number of 
people using it and buying hardware they will take notice and if they 
don't, some small company will.  Some people are writing programs and 
code and they are certainly doing their part.   If we users sent emails 
out to everyone we know to let them know of the advantages of Linux we 
would likely make some converts.  With enough users we would get the 
hardware we want. I really don't think there is any other way.  More 
organizations to promote Linux the all of us users could contribute even 
a small effort each could make a huge difference.  I belong to several 
email groups and I try to sing the praises of Linux without being 
branded a spammer.  I think I may have nudged a few people into trying 
Linux.   Most don't stay, but a little later they try again and manage 
to stay a little longer and I believe that many eventually stay with 
Linux in a dual boot system at least. 
    I am running a machine shop machine off of a linux program.  The 
program EMC2 it's free and it brings down the cost of computer run 
machine to a huge degree.  I believe we are going to see back yard 
machine shops grow all over the world. They will be manufacture parts 
for industry and these families will be making extremely good livings 
and as this trend grows all kinds of products will begin to cater to 
Linux users.  I think Emc2 is the hope for the future world wide where 
Linux is concerned.  This program can run almost every kind of machine, 
robot and any other digital  whatever you can think of and again it's 
free.  It runs in Linux :-)
                                                                         
                                                                     Doug




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