Ubuntu second hard drive was Windows partition

[Jesse Petre]

What purpose is served by insulting each other?  The point of this mail 
list is to HELP people, not hurt them.  Not to mention, everyone else on 
this list is receiving a copy of your messages, and quite frankly, I 
don't want it.

Take your differences OUT of the list and email each other privately.  I 
don't care how much you insult each other - just keep it out of MY inbox.



On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Karl Larsen wrote:

> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:25:33 -0600
> From: Karl Larsen <k5di at zianet.com>
> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu second hard drive was Windows partition
> 
> Mark Haney wrote:
>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>
>>>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Doug Pollard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Excuse me I am not making any sense this morning.  This is a second hard
>>>>>> drive that auto mounts but has no permissions.  I need info on how to
>>>>>> give permissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>     A hard drive does not have permissions. It has partitions that may
>>>>> have owners and passwords depending on the type. A Windows partition is
>>>>> not password anything :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think either of you are making sense.
>>>>
>>>> Doug, if you are automounting a second drive, it's possible the drive is
>>>>   mounted Read only.  An 'ls -l' output of the mounted drive would be
>>>> /really/ helpful here.
>>>>
>>>> There are a couple of reasons this could be.
>>>>
>>>> One, the drive is now unformatted, meaning no partitions or filesystems
>>>> on it.  That of course would mean it wouldn't mount at all, but it's
>>>> worth mentioning.
>>>>
>>>> Two, /if/ the drive has windows on it (I couldn't find the rest of this
>>>> thread so I don't have a clue if the subject line is accurate or not)
>>>> then it's probably an NTFS partition.  I don't know if Ubuntu ships with
>>>> ntfs-3g by default, but I know the ntfs driver I still use is Read-only.
>>>>   That would explain the fact that it mounts but there are no
>>>> 'permissions' on it.  It's only readable.
>>>>
>>>> If ntfs-3g does come default in ubuntu, you can probably mount the
>>>> partition as RW by editing /etc/fstab.  Can you post that for us as well?
>>>>
>>>> However, I don't recommend mounting NTFS as RW even with ntfs-3g.  MS is
>>>> notorious for altering NTFS in tiny ways even across Service Packs and
>>>> makes life interesting when trying to write from linux.
>>>>
>>>> If the drive doesn't have anything critical on it, I would just fdisk it
>>>> and format it with a linux filesystem (ext3 is a good one for general use).
>>>>
>>>> Please, post the additional info and let us look at it to help you out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>     Guys STOP!!! You never ever mount a hard drive. You mount a
>>> PARTITION on a hard drive using /etc/fstab or mount -t ext3 ext.
>>>
>>>     Now get it in your heads that it is a partition you mount.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You know, I've been doing this a LONG time.  I've forgotten more about
>> computers than you'll probably ever know.  So let me say this loud and
>> clear:
>>
>> WE KNOW THAT.  We're not idiots.  However, 99 times out of 100 the
>> partition encompasses the entire drive, therefore, it's safe to say
>> 'mounting the drive'.  That, by default means the partition spans the
>> entire drive.
>>
>> Picking nits like this does nothing but take up bandwidth.  It is
>> UNDERSTOOD that you mount the partition.
>>
>> Please, I implore you.  Stop with the inane, asinine and just plain
>> pointless remarks.  If you've got nothing to ADD to the conversation,
>> then don't add anything at all.  I would most of us on this list are
>> rather sick of correcting you time and again.
>>
>> Or, in this case, just telling you to shut up.  I hate being such a rude
>> person, but get a grip man.  This thread was over had you paid
>> attention, Doug got the DRIVE mounted before you even sent this message.
>>
>> Unless and until you have anything relevant to add to the list I'm
>> filtering all messages from you.  As far as I can tell that will save a
>> ton of wasted bandwidth.
>>
>> I really try to help people, but some people REFUSE to be helped.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>    Well if you would just use the PROPER words for what your doing it
> would make it easier for us who have not forgot what you MIGHT have
> known. Your a sorry case for an expert when you do not know how to write.
>
> Karl
>
>
>

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Jesse Petre
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