Ubuntu second hard drive was Windows partition

[Karl Larsen]

Mark Haney wrote:
> Karl Larsen wrote:
>   
>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>     
>>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Doug Pollard wrote:
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>>>>         
>>>>> Excuse me I am not making any sense this morning.  This is a second hard 
>>>>> drive that auto mounts but has no permissions.  I need info on how to 
>>>>> give permissions.
>>>>>                                                                    
>>>>> Thanks Doug
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>     A hard drive does not have permissions. It has partitions that may 
>>>> have owners and passwords depending on the type. A Windows partition is 
>>>> not password anything :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I don't think either of you are making sense.
>>>
>>> Doug, if you are automounting a second drive, it's possible the drive is 
>>>   mounted Read only.  An 'ls -l' output of the mounted drive would be 
>>> /really/ helpful here.
>>>
>>> There are a couple of reasons this could be.
>>>
>>> One, the drive is now unformatted, meaning no partitions or filesystems 
>>> on it.  That of course would mean it wouldn't mount at all, but it's 
>>> worth mentioning.
>>>
>>> Two, /if/ the drive has windows on it (I couldn't find the rest of this 
>>> thread so I don't have a clue if the subject line is accurate or not) 
>>> then it's probably an NTFS partition.  I don't know if Ubuntu ships with 
>>> ntfs-3g by default, but I know the ntfs driver I still use is Read-only. 
>>>   That would explain the fact that it mounts but there are no 
>>> 'permissions' on it.  It's only readable.
>>>
>>> If ntfs-3g does come default in ubuntu, you can probably mount the 
>>> partition as RW by editing /etc/fstab.  Can you post that for us as well?
>>>
>>> However, I don't recommend mounting NTFS as RW even with ntfs-3g.  MS is 
>>> notorious for altering NTFS in tiny ways even across Service Packs and 
>>> makes life interesting when trying to write from linux.
>>>
>>> If the drive doesn't have anything critical on it, I would just fdisk it 
>>> and format it with a linux filesystem (ext3 is a good one for general use).
>>>
>>> Please, post the additional info and let us look at it to help you out.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>     Guys STOP!!! You never ever mount a hard drive. You mount a 
>> PARTITION on a hard drive using /etc/fstab or mount -t ext3 ext.
>>
>>     Now get it in your heads that it is a partition you mount.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>     
>
> You know, I've been doing this a LONG time.  I've forgotten more about 
> computers than you'll probably ever know.  So let me say this loud and 
> clear:
>
> WE KNOW THAT.  We're not idiots.  However, 99 times out of 100 the 
> partition encompasses the entire drive, therefore, it's safe to say 
> 'mounting the drive'.  That, by default means the partition spans the 
> entire drive.
>
> Picking nits like this does nothing but take up bandwidth.  It is 
> UNDERSTOOD that you mount the partition.
>
> Please, I implore you.  Stop with the inane, asinine and just plain 
> pointless remarks.  If you've got nothing to ADD to the conversation, 
> then don't add anything at all.  I would most of us on this list are 
> rather sick of correcting you time and again.
>
> Or, in this case, just telling you to shut up.  I hate being such a rude 
> person, but get a grip man.  This thread was over had you paid 
> attention, Doug got the DRIVE mounted before you even sent this message.
>
> Unless and until you have anything relevant to add to the list I'm 
> filtering all messages from you.  As far as I can tell that will save a 
> ton of wasted bandwidth.
>
> I really try to help people, but some people REFUSE to be helped.
>
>
>
>   
    Well if you would just use the PROPER words for what your doing it 
would make it easier for us who have not forgot what you MIGHT have 
known. Your a sorry case for an expert when you do not know how to write.

Karl


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