Partition Reorganization

Sun Feb 17 15:26:30 UTC 2008

SYNass, Just forget what I said as I've never came
across your exact situation before and trying to be
helpful got me over my head.  Heed what Nils has said
as he  is one of the experts.  Sorry if I caused you
some trouble.

--- SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux <i-ubux at synass.net>
wrote:

> On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 22:06 -0800, Leonard
> Chatagnier wrote:
> > --- SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux <i-ubux at synass.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 18:36 -0800, Leonard
> > > Chatagnier wrote:
> > > > --- SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux
> <i-ubux at synass.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello Ubuntu System Experts
> > > > > May I ask you for your advice and guidance
> to
> > > > > overcome a special
> > > > > problem ?
> > > > > snip
> > > > > Well, in the menu.lst of both the Ubuntu
> > > partitions
> > > > > it shows hda2 !!
> > > > > 
> > Yes, and it will until you change the bootable
> flag on
> > hda2. You can leave hda2 as bootable and just make
> > hda6 bootable also, if thats what you want.  I
> would
> > just have one bootable.
> > 
> > > > > Where is the pointer to direct either WIN or
> > > Ubuntu
> > You select which one you want during bootup when
> the
> > grub menu starts, just hit escape to open the
> > selection.  You will see an entry for windows and
> an
> > entry for ubuntu for each kernel you have
> installed
> > and also a rescue entry for each of these
> entries.. 
> > Assuming you are using grub as your boot loader
> and
> > not lilo.
> > 
> > > > > ?
> > > > > Is it MBR and how do I adjust it to my
> newest
> > > > > configuration ?
> > > > > 
> > You don't need to run mbr unless you are not able
> to
> > boot windows.
> > 
> > > > > TIA for your prompt assistance and hints.
> > > > > Cheers, svobi
> > > > >
> > > > Hello SYHass, I'm no expert so take what I say
> > > with
> > > > caution.  That said, have you considered
> taking
> > > the
> > > > boot tic off of hda2 and ticing it on hda6. I
> > > think
> > > > that should work. If not someone will surely
> > > correct
> > > > me. HTH.
> > > > Good Luck,  You probably want to run "sudo
> > > > update-grub" or "grub-update". Can't remember
> > > which.
> > > > Leonard Chatagnier
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Leonard
> > > My name is svobi ;-)
> > > Thanks for your feedback and concerns regarding
> my
> > > sensitive action !
> > > 
> > > Due its sensitivity I have no courage to play'n
> risk
> > > and need confirmed
> > > and 
> > > proven steps to get my Ubuntu boot changed from
> hda2
> > > to the copied and 
> > > therefor identical hda6 !!
> > > 
> > Ok, then wait for someone you have more confidence
> in.
> > 
> > > Had tried to get a better impression with S.G.D
> > > (Super Grub Disk) and 
> > > noticed that both partitions are recognized.
> Tried
> > > to get it changed 
> > > to hda6 but didn't workout as expected.
> > > 
> > I dont't know anything about the SGD disc but you
> > don't really need it. You have to change the
> bootable
> > flag with any good partitioner(make sure the drive
> you
> > change is not mounted) to bootable on hda6 if you
> want
> > to boot it and see it in the grub startup menu.
> > 
> > > My assumption:
> > > While system boots I am able to choose my OS
> (Ubuntu
> > > or Win XPP) and 
> > > deciding for Ubuntu ... both the menu.lst points
> to
> > > the same hda2 !?
> > > 
> > Yes and it will until you remove the bootable flag
> on
> > it with some partitioner.
> > 
> > > There MUST be another mark to point to either
> Ubuntu
> > > (old / in hda2) or 
> > > Ubuntu (new / in hda6) !?
> > > This may/must happen in the MBR entry !?
> > > 
> > No, that's not how you change which partition it
> > bootable. it's as I said above.
> > 
> > > Yes, I still have too many question marks here
> and 
> > > therefor I am not feeling comfortable to erase
> my
> > > old Ubuntu and 
> > > risk a newmbr with the most accurate und wanted
> > > Ubuntu in hda6. ;-)
> > 
> > By all means don't erase your hda2 partition
> unless
> > you want to free up that partition for something
> else.
> > Just remove the bootable flag on it and it will
> not
> > longer be bootable but still can be mounted and
> > operated upon.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Any more, especially secure, hints are very very
> > > appreciated. ;-))
> > > 
> > If you haven't received a response from someone
> else,
> > I', sure you will shortly but I think they will
> tell
> > you the same thing.  Good luck. Hope this helps
> some.
> > 
> > > TIA and cheers, 
> > > svobi
> 
> 
> Merci beaucoup, Leonard
> Thanks a lot for your help and one point first - you
> wrote:
> 
> > OK, then wait for someone you have more confidence
> in.
> 
> It's not confidence to someone else ...
> ... it's more my own confidence and (missing)
> experience & knowledge ...
> ... since I never did it before ! ;-)
> 
> As a Ubuntu newbie since late Fall 2007 I am still
> on my first insecure 
> discovery steps !! ;-))
> 
> I just want to make sure I really do understand what
> I am told to do
> and 
> try to avoid any problems I may not being able to
> deal with !!! ;-|
> 
> I got another description of how to do but I am
> still same insecure with
> it too.
> 
> Just tried to get the menu.lst in hda6 changed
> accordingly and 
> got NO access to that. ;-( You see I am on very
> wacky feets. ;-)
> 
> One more (personal) problem with my system:
> It's my very first installation and there is only
> ONE SINGLE partition
> for whole Ubuntu 7.10 !
> 
> Generally and normally I would never do so !!!
> 
> In all my installations in more than 20 years I
> always used to split
> explicitly into 
> system / apps / data !
> 
> Well, Ubuntu deals somewhat differently and I am on
> my learning way to
> find my best configuration !!
> 
> However I am sure, /home will soon go off the
> current location and I may
> run Ubuntu with 
> root / swap / home and perhaps (!?) or not boot !?
> 
> I better stop here and start reading and studying
> your and the other
> cookbook 
> to get my Ubuntu menu done well ! ;-)
> 
> Once again merci and cheers, 
> svobi
> 
> 
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Leonard Chatagnier
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