Partition Reorganization

[SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux]

On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 22:06 -0800, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> --- SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux <i-ubux at synass.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 18:36 -0800, Leonard
> > Chatagnier wrote:
> > > --- SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux <i-ubux at synass.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello Ubuntu System Experts
> > > > May I ask you for your advice and guidance to
> > > > overcome a special
> > > > problem ?
> > > > snip
> > > > Well, in the menu.lst of both the Ubuntu
> > partitions
> > > > it shows hda2 !!
> > > > 
> Yes, and it will until you change the bootable flag on
> hda2. You can leave hda2 as bootable and just make
> hda6 bootable also, if thats what you want.  I would
> just have one bootable.
> 
> > > > Where is the pointer to direct either WIN or
> > Ubuntu
> You select which one you want during bootup when the
> grub menu starts, just hit escape to open the
> selection.  You will see an entry for windows and an
> entry for ubuntu for each kernel you have installed
> and also a rescue entry for each of these entries.. 
> Assuming you are using grub as your boot loader and
> not lilo.
> 
> > > > ?
> > > > Is it MBR and how do I adjust it to my newest
> > > > configuration ?
> > > > 
> You don't need to run mbr unless you are not able to
> boot windows.
> 
> > > > TIA for your prompt assistance and hints.
> > > > Cheers, svobi
> > > >
> > > Hello SYHass, I'm no expert so take what I say
> > with
> > > caution.  That said, have you considered taking
> > the
> > > boot tic off of hda2 and ticing it on hda6. I
> > think
> > > that should work. If not someone will surely
> > correct
> > > me. HTH.
> > > Good Luck,  You probably want to run "sudo
> > > update-grub" or "grub-update". Can't remember
> > which.
> > > Leonard Chatagnier
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Leonard
> > My name is svobi ;-)
> > Thanks for your feedback and concerns regarding my
> > sensitive action !
> > 
> > Due its sensitivity I have no courage to play'n risk
> > and need confirmed
> > and 
> > proven steps to get my Ubuntu boot changed from hda2
> > to the copied and 
> > therefor identical hda6 !!
> > 
> Ok, then wait for someone you have more confidence in.
> 
> > Had tried to get a better impression with S.G.D
> > (Super Grub Disk) and 
> > noticed that both partitions are recognized. Tried
> > to get it changed 
> > to hda6 but didn't workout as expected.
> > 
> I dont't know anything about the SGD disc but you
> don't really need it. You have to change the bootable
> flag with any good partitioner(make sure the drive you
> change is not mounted) to bootable on hda6 if you want
> to boot it and see it in the grub startup menu.
> 
> > My assumption:
> > While system boots I am able to choose my OS (Ubuntu
> > or Win XPP) and 
> > deciding for Ubuntu ... both the menu.lst points to
> > the same hda2 !?
> > 
> Yes and it will until you remove the bootable flag on
> it with some partitioner.
> 
> > There MUST be another mark to point to either Ubuntu
> > (old / in hda2) or 
> > Ubuntu (new / in hda6) !?
> > This may/must happen in the MBR entry !?
> > 
> No, that's not how you change which partition it
> bootable. it's as I said above.
> 
> > Yes, I still have too many question marks here and 
> > therefor I am not feeling comfortable to erase my
> > old Ubuntu and 
> > risk a newmbr with the most accurate und wanted
> > Ubuntu in hda6. ;-)
> 
> By all means don't erase your hda2 partition unless
> you want to free up that partition for something else.
> Just remove the bootable flag on it and it will not
> longer be bootable but still can be mounted and
> operated upon.
> 
> > 
> > Any more, especially secure, hints are very very
> > appreciated. ;-))
> > 
> If you haven't received a response from someone else,
> I', sure you will shortly but I think they will tell
> you the same thing.  Good luck. Hope this helps some.
> 
> > TIA and cheers, 
> > svobi


Merci beaucoup, Leonard
Thanks a lot for your help and one point first - you wrote:

> OK, then wait for someone you have more confidence in.

It's not confidence to someone else ...
... it's more my own confidence and (missing) experience & knowledge ...
... since I never did it before ! ;-)

As a Ubuntu newbie since late Fall 2007 I am still on my first insecure 
discovery steps !! ;-))

I just want to make sure I really do understand what I am told to do
and 
try to avoid any problems I may not being able to deal with !!! ;-|

I got another description of how to do but I am still same insecure with
it too.

Just tried to get the menu.lst in hda6 changed accordingly and 
got NO access to that. ;-( You see I am on very wacky feets. ;-)

One more (personal) problem with my system:
It's my very first installation and there is only ONE SINGLE partition
for whole Ubuntu 7.10 !

Generally and normally I would never do so !!!

In all my installations in more than 20 years I always used to split
explicitly into 
system / apps / data !

Well, Ubuntu deals somewhat differently and I am on my learning way to
find my best configuration !!

However I am sure, /home will soon go off the current location and I may
run Ubuntu with 
root / swap / home and perhaps (!?) or not boot !?

I better stop here and start reading and studying your and the other
cookbook 
to get my Ubuntu menu done well ! ;-)

Once again merci and cheers, 
svobi