Opinions learning Ubuntu/Kubuntu

Tue Jun 5 00:32:40 UTC 2007

Wow you guys rock! Thanks for all the responses.  
Cybe...I did what you said about installing "rutebook"...but the
question is....how and where do I get to it.  How do I use a browser to
use it?  This is the little stuff that I don't know yet...I'm gaining on
it...but it's slow.

Roger...really, a production PC?! I like the sound of that. How do you
use it....professionally?  I set one of the computers up as a dual boot
systems with the primary OS to be Suse Linux....well I scratched that
idea after the problems I mentioned earlier...I would like to install
Kubuntu or Ubuntu as the primary OS...but feel that I need to learn a
bit more.  The things that I thought be so simple to do, I actually have
to learn!  I am determined to get there through!

There was not name on the other posting (the 47 year vet of computers)
thanks a lot for your input as well.

Guys I have sooo much going on in my head with this stuff...I'm trying
to find the best place to start...maybe on line stuff...or rutebook
(although I have to learn what and where it is on my computer)

It's really nice to have you guys understand what the heck I'm talking
about...the SUSE community was...well...not so good.

Thanks again,
Chris

On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 15:46 -0700, Roger Neth Jr wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:54 -0400, Chris wrote:
> > Thanks Bruce for the quick response.
> > 
> > My background..ok I own a computer manufacturing and service company
> > with MS Windows as the primary OS....but I would like to change that. I
> > would like to offer a Linux based OS as an option on new computers. I
> > spoke with some other small OEMs that offer Ubuntu and other distro of
> > Linux and would like to learn as mush as I could about it.  We also do
> > commercial IT work for a few company's and would like to get involved,
> > eventually and slowly over to Linux on there server to start and then the
> > workstations..maybe as a "thin-client" system...which I know little
> > about.  I just can't seem to get the information fast enough...and can't
> > seem to find something that walks me through all the things that every
> > book seems to assume that you know already.
> > 
> > Suse seemed pretty good...I think I learned a decent amount about
> > it....but for 9 months I feel that I should know more.  The reason for
> > this is like I said earlier.  The books are decent..but there are some
> > missing steps that I needed to complete a particular step in learn a
> > specific task...and when the questions came up...I got a lot of smart
> > ass answers (from the community support) instead of real answers.  Also
> > I get a real bad feeling about the version of Suse that I started on,
> > which was SLED (Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop) which is supposed to be
> > the hardened version...and almost bullet proof...according to Novel.  I
> > talked many time with Novel's tech guys...and after many issues with the
> > OS and no real answers from Novel...I though it would be a good idea to
> > check out some other distros...thinking, if this is there "hardened"
> > version of the OS...I'm worried.
> > 
> > So now to Ubuntu.  I want learn it...not as much as a user, but more of
> > an administrator. Of course I need to learn the user side of it also.
> > Understanding and being able to really use the command line/terminal end
> > of the OS and getting into the nity grity is important...but I really
> > don't know where to start.  Some of the commands that worked in Suse
> > don't work in Ubuntu....like the root user being disabled....? 
> > What do you guys think?
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:33 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
> > > On Monday 04 June 2007, Chris wrote:
> > > >     Also, even though I really like KDE should I learn on Kubuntu or
> > > >         should
> > > >         I concentrate on Ubuntu and then after I have a good idea what
> > > >         I'm
> > > >         doing, then go to Kubuntu/
> > > >        
> > > >         I'm an IT professional that is trying to get heavily into
> > > >         Ubuntu/Linux
> > > >         and still having an issue getting a handle on things.
> > > 
> > > It might help if you filled us in on your background a bit first.   You spent 
> > > 9 months with SuSE is all we know and you might add how well you did with 
> > > that.
> > > 
> > > All linux's are pretty much the same, just the admin parts usually differ a 
> > > bit.
> > > 
> > > As far as Ubuntu or Kubuntu, they are the same except for the Window manager.
> > > 
> > > Kubuntu uses your favorite KDE and Ubuntu uses Gnome.
> > > 
> > > So if you pick Kubuntu, you'll have KDE and can learn the behind the scenes 
> > > things beyond that.  The behind the scenes stuff is very much the same across 
> > > all *ubuntu's.
> > > 
> > > The big difference you will find is that SuSE used RPM's to install packages.   
> > > Ubuntu uses .deb packages.  Pretty much the same result, just different 
> > > commands needed to do the job(s).
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> I have been using Ubuntu as a production desktop for over a year w/o
> much Linux experience and no problems with learning it while using it.
> 
> There are plenty of books e.g. "Ubuntu Hacks", Ubuntu Linux for
> Non-Geeks, etc.
> 
> I haven't found much on the server side besides what is in the online
> docs, I could be mistaken and please correct me if missing server info.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Roger
> 
> Titus 2:10
> 
> 
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