subject: Re: Giving up on Edgy

[David Armour]

>
> NoOp wrote:
>   
>>  Satterwhite wrote:
>>     
>>> I don't want to, but I'm going to have to give up on Ubuntu. Still no
>>> sound - although several people have tried to help and I do thank you.
>>> Much worse is the "Out of Range" error that appears on some boots. If I
>>> log off my system and leave the machine up (for background backups,
>>> etc), at some point it will crash with either a black screen or an "Out
>>> of Range". This is whether I'm in kdm or gdm.
>>>
>>> I really like Ubuntu, but the latest release shouldn't have been
>>> released, it wasn't ready. Googling around the net, the "Out of Range"
>>> error I described was known before the release. There is no excuse for a
>>> release with a problem of that magnitude outstanding.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I would suggest doing a fresh install of Dapper 6.06 LTS and using the
>> Edgy CD as an AOL coaster. I spent about 4-5 days with 6.10 and it
>> throughly screwed up my test system (luckily it was only a test system).
>>  Edgy would freeze on boot, BSOD, failed to initialize HAL! error,
>> wouldn't power down properly, etc., etc.  First had upgraded from a
>> fully up-to-date Dapper, then even tried a fresh install from the Edgy
>> Alternate CD... reminded me of a Windows ME update.
>>     
>
> Actually, Edgy *ALMOST* makes me long for the days when I only had the
> Windows problems.
>
> The problem with your suggestion is in moving toward the future. If this
> is the quality of the software Ubuntu is releasing, then how can we
> trust the release *AFTER* Edgy? Or after that? Are we now to say,
> install Dapper and never upgrade again? We certainly can't trust the
> Ubuntu team's assessment - look at their assessment of Edgy. As much as
> I like Ubuntu, they've shown they don't deserve our confidence.
>
> This leaves moving to a different distro. Not sure if it's going to be
> Debian or Fedora, but Ubuntu has to go.
>   

noobie central, here. i'm sorry you're feeling so bummed about your 
experience with edgy. my experience has been, essentially, quite 
positive. 24 h upgrading from dapper notwithstanding! how *can* you 
trust the release after edgy? i suppose it depends on what you're trying 
to do with it. i'm not expecting v. much, either in terms of flipping 
the bird to microsoft, or in practical terms like finding a way to phone 
long distance for free, or making a cad-drawing for a woodworking project.

but i can PRINT, and scan (with a saved-from-the-dumpster scanner 
ferkrissakes!), and play music (sibelius' valz triste), and download 
mp3s, and finish crosswords using a spreadsheet (!), and browse the web 
to find out how to do a whole whack o' stuff without getting in my car 
to drive to a library, and email my pals, for the monthly cost of 
subscribing to an isp, for 'free' (linux is free if you don't count your 
time!)!

seems fair, to me, scots background notwithstanding. ymmv. let us know 
how you make out with debian/fedora. i really am sorry you've had such a 
bad experience with ubuntu. bummer.