How can one say Linux is $-free . . . ?

[Rutger van Haasteren]

by the way, I have used 'for free' perhaps in the wrong context, but I was
just trying to make a point here about the community. The GPL doesn't say
that GPLd software must be free of charge, but for any usefull piece of GPLd
software this will usually be the case.

Rutger

On 12/21/06, Rutger van Haasteren <rvhaasteren at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is about free as in liberty. So even if you have paid money for
> software that is GPLd, then you have the right to redistribute it. Even for
> free. So it is ok to charge money, but don't count on becoming rich.
>
> == quote ==
>
> A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms. Thus, you
> should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without modifications,
> either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to anyone anywhere<http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#exportcontrol>.
> Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do not
> have to ask or pay for permission.
> == /quote ==
>
> Rutger
>
>
> On 12/21/06, Martin Marcher <martin.marcher at openforce.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Am 21.12.2006 um 11:16 schrieb Rutger van Haasteren:
> >
> > > Well, that's the idea of GPLd software. People have been coding all
> > > day (for
> > > many days). And they are giving it away for free. The reason this
> > > works so
> > > well is that there are many people doing this and they like it.
> > > Some do make
> > > money through donations, but mainly the community does this for
> > > free. Many
> > > developers understand this and therefore give back to the community by
> > > providing patches when they find bugs. I think this is a great
> > > system, and
> > > it does work. Just go to www.gnu.org and read about it. It is a great
> > > phylosophy...
> >
> > well disagree on that. I think that the free isn't about giving it
> > away for free but rather to give your user/costumers/whatever the
> > freedom to modify the software you provide.
> >
> > == quote ==
> > The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
> > The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
> > needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
> >
> > The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
> > (freedom 2).
> > The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to
> > the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access
> > to the source code is a precondition for this.
> > == /quote ==
> >
> > Could you tell me where there is the freedom to get software without
> > money? Note that freedom 2 doesn't say it just says _iff_ you already
> > have a copy you can redistribute it, which implies that you have paid
> > (if the author wishes) for the software.
> >
> > \martin
> >
> >
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