Using Ubuntu absolves the user of personal responsibility?

[Ouattara Oumar Aziz]

Alexander Skwar a écrit :
> · Ouattara Oumar Aziz <wattazoum at gmail.com>:
> 
>> Alexander Skwar :
>>> · cantormath <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>:
>>>
>>>> If people what to be l33t per say, they
>>>> got to learn to read a man, but if my grandma what her email, I dont
>>>> want her having to open terminal to learn how.
>>> That's fine. In this case, grandma needs to find an admin for
>>> her system.
>> Come on, Alexander ! I admire your technical skills, but I think you're 
>> to much into it.
>> Understand that some people may just want there system to run (without 
>> knowing much of it).
> 
> Yes, I do understand that, but Miravlix showed the problems
> that a "I don't care about Computers, but must have an internet
> accessible system" might cause. Ie. those machines are too easily
> turned into Zombies in bot-nets used to spam or DDOS or otherwise
> attack other systems. That's so, as computers are difficult
> machines - why is it so hard, to accept, that some learning
> is required? Heck, people don't fiddle with motors of cars
> without some learning, do they?
> 

I agree that people that connected a computer to the internet may have 
some notions about internet security. You are right on that point. But 
when it comes to just using their computers, making it easier will help.

People that answer questions giving a command line or a non "very 
tested" tools should also prevent the OP that it might break the system 
(or should we add that warning to the automatically joined signature of 
this mailing list ?) .

>> I believe Ubuntu want to be usable by anyone, the most easily. 
>> Concerning the grandma story, I think the reaction of someone with 
>> technical skill like yours (if you want to help Ubuntu in its logic) 
>> should be to think about a way to simplify the thing so that users only 
>> need to search into the documentation of your solution and solve the case.
>>
>> As an example , the three types of response given will mostly lead the 
>> user to type a command on the shell.
> 
> Fine. This is Linux, after all. If people really don't use the
> shell, they are missing one of the huge advantages of Linux (or
> Unix, for that matter) over Windows.

I agree that the shell is the best invention of this era ;-) . But even 
if I just love it, I have to admit that some people may just be 
"allergic" to it. So I try to show them a way to move without using it.


>> Why not think about a nautilus  
>> script that will mount the .iso just by selecting the option in the 
>> right click menu ?
> 
> There ARE scripts like this available. Just google for it ;) I'm
> not into re-inventing the wheel. I'm too lazy for this.
> 
> http://www.google.de/search?q=mount%20iso%20nautilus%20script
> -> 1st hit: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/23255/
> 
This script is so COOL ! thanks for the hint . the English page :
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87369

Ouattara Aziz