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John dingo at coco2.arach.net.au
Mon Sep 20 01:28:31 UTC 2004


Matt Zimmerman wrote:

>On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 08:47:48AM +0000, John wrote:
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>>Configure the Network.
>>I'm a Linux person, I know roughly what eth0 means. A BSD person won't. 
>>A Windows person especially won't.
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>It is appropriate for it to be displayed for the benefit of those who are
>familiar with the naming convention.  A description of the card is also
>provided where more than one exists.
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>If you're talking about something else, please provide more context.
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I have two cards in this box. One's the onboard wired NIC, the others' 
the aftermarket Netcomm wireless card.

Depending on what I boot, either can be eth0 and the other eth1.

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>>Also, MUT has two network cards, one uses wire and is not attached to 
>>anything, the ohter is wireless and needs some firmware.
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>>Which network adaptor is this?
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>This?
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The one it has identified. It'c clearly only found half the network cards.

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>>reboot.
>>I booted the install media with
>>vga=791 acpi=force
>>I'd like these to be incorporated into Grub's boot-time parameters.
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>https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1337
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>>Still asks about ppp
>>I don't (yet) have a working network and it wants to download from the 
>>Internet?
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>That's what configuring PPP is about: providing a working network since you
>don't yet have one.
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This is a CD install. If I don't have a fast network, let's get it over 
and done with. We can get updates later.

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>>I've logged in.
>>Root terminal has sbin directories in PATH. Good. I've never been 
>>convinced having local {bin,sbin} to the front is good:
>>Can create unexpected behaviour if a binary is in local and system bin 
>>directories.
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>That's the point; it allows you to override the supplied software with local
>versions.  Shooting yourself in the foot is optional.
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>>symlinks
>>What useful purpose do the symlinks in / for vmlinuz* and initrd.img* serve?
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>They exist for lilo, yaboot and similar loaders.
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lilo doesn't need them, I used it for some years without symlinks.
This is not a machine that runs Yaboot.
I'm not installing lilo. If the Debian/Ubuntu packaging of LILO requires 
them, let the LILO package create them/turn them on.

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>>Is /cdrom needed?
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>Yes, assuming you have the hardware.  It's the default location for mounting
>a CD-ROM.
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I lnow Debian's been doing this for ages; I was hoping with the advent 
of /media that it would go away.

>>Lost mail
>>See /dead.letter
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>https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1123
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>>Prism54 Wireless
>>To get this working I needed to copy the firmware into 
>>/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware (no suitable directory in /lib exists) and 
>>then run network configuration.
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>It isn't created by default, but /lib/firmware is searched.
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Shouldn't the directory be iin the hotplug package?

What does hotplug do if /usr/lib/hotplug does not exist when it's started?

Can Ubuntu handle /usr being on USB?

I've been reading the startup scripts to try to figure this out, and I'm 
not convinced it's right.
hotplug needs to be run before the network comes up to configure network 
devices.
I think hotplug needs to run so we can mount USB media.
Network devices need to be up before we can mount network filesystems.

Of course, devices configured outside of hotplug don't count in this; if 
their modules (and firmware) are loaded in initrd then hotplug is 
irrelevant to those devices.

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>>Nautilus!
>>I run apt-get to install openssh-server. Nautilus popped up a window on 
>>the mount.
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>Bug; we need to find some way to suppress the popup if something is mounted
>manually rather than by g-v-m.
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One of the reasons I dislike this feature so much. I've not tried it on 
Ubuntu, or used Gnome  for years untul U, but one of the things that 
used to infuriate me was the opening of a window on a freshly-mounted 
loopback device:
mount -o loop, ...
and up pops a window.

At one point I had autofs configured to loop-mount a series of ISOs, and 
sometimes I'd search them each in sequence. Seven ISOs, seven windows:-((

As I recall, even if someone else mounted them.

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>>CD drive
>>My CD drive keeps spinning. I don't recall this behaviour from Sarge on 
>>the same system.
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>hal polls the drive to see when media is inserted.  On my drives, this
>doesn't cause any unusual behaviour, but perhaps it does with yours.
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I should have said it spins continuously when there's a CD in it and 
it's mounted.
It does not spin continuously when there is no CD in the drive, or if it 
does I didn't hear it:-)

If hal is causing this then I don't like hal. Two of my boxes have two 
optical drives (separate burners and readers).

I was hoping that 2.6 drivers might have a means of signalling userland 
when significant events occur such as disk in ZIp or CD drive. wire 
plugged into or pulled out of a NIC, AP signal detected by wireless and 
such. It would facilitate the snazzy autoconfiguration OSX does.





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