upgrade 386 to 686

pol mulata at gmail.com
Sat Nov 27 00:27:11 UTC 2004


hooray! it worked! and the machine is incredibly faster...

thanks everyone,
mulata


On Fri Nov 26 14:34:32 PST 2004, ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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>    1. Re: Can't run VMWare 4.5.2 in Hoary (Timothy Ha)
>    2. upgrade 386 to 686 (pol)
>    3. Re: upgrade 386 to 686 (Lloyd D Budd)
>    4. Re: upgrade 386 to 686 (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
>    5. Re: upgrade 386 to 686 (Bob Nielsen)
>    6. Re: Can't run VMWare 4.5.2 in Hoary (Timothy Ha)
>    7. Re: Burning needs (Petri Pennanen)
>    8. Re: java (Lloyd D Budd)
>    9. Re: Dropping support for Mozilla suite? (Loptr Chaote)
>   10. Re: Mirroring i386 locally (Tapeworm)
>   11. Re: java (Oliver Grawert)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:02:27 +0300
> From: Timothy Ha <linuxmail at yandex.ru>
> Subject: Re: Can't run VMWare 4.5.2 in Hoary
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <41A799E3.3060004 at yandex.ru>
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> 
> No, it runs and creates a new virtual machine. But when I click "start"
> for the virtual machine, it does nothing. No debug message, too.
> 
> What is going on with it?
> Thanks.
> 
> Timothy Ha wrote:
> 
> > I downloaded the vmware-any-any patch .84 release
> >
> > 1) installed vmware newly
> > 2) installed the patch by running sudo ./runme.pl from the patch's folder
> > 3) sudo rm /etc/vmware/not_configured
> >
> > 4) RUN vmware successfully.
> >
> > Timothy
> >
> > Timothy Ha wrote:
> >
> >> I have updated from Warty to Hoary. Downloaded VMWare 4.5.2 and
> >> installed it.
> >>
> >> But vmware-config.pl can't compile the vmmon modules. I downloaded
> >> build-essential, kernel-headers-2.6.8-1-386 and -686 by Synaptic from
> >> repos (hoary and hoary-universe...) but at the compilation it says
> >> that kernel is currently 2.6.8-3-386 and even if the module will be
> >> built, it won't load into the current kernel.
> >>
> >> What can I do to have VMWare running?
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> P.S: I have read about patch to /etc/init.d/vmware to have udev working.
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:09:25 -0800
> From: pol <mulata at gmail.com>
> Subject: upgrade 386 to 686
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <65f6e5bb041126130982657a at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> forgive the possibility of overwhelming ignorance here...
> 
> i am new to PC architectures and have just realized that the compaq
> box i have is in fact an old 686 box and not a 386. i installed the
> 386 version of ubuntu on it and now i am wondering if the only way to
> upgrade to the 686 version is by downloading the entire ubuntu image,
> again.
> 
> is there a simpler way, perhaps via synaptic or terminal, to upgrade
> my ubuntu distro to the 686 version?
> 
> thanks for all the previous help everyone. my first incursion into
> linux territory has been pretty exciting so far!
> 
> mulata
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:18:46 -0800
> From: Lloyd D Budd <foolswisdom at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: upgrade 386 to 686
> To: pol <mulata at gmail.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <9712993f04112613184383fd69 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:09:25 -0800, pol <mulata at gmail.com> wrote:
> > forgive the possibility of overwhelming ignorance here...
> >
> > i am new to PC architectures and have just realized that the compaq
> > box i have is in fact an old 686 box and not a 386. i installed the
> > 386 version of ubuntu on it and now i am wondering if the only way to
> > upgrade to the 686 version is by downloading the entire ubuntu image,
> > again.
> >
> > is there a simpler way, perhaps via synaptic or terminal, to upgrade
> > my ubuntu distro to the 686 version?
> 
> You will not have to download the entire ubuntu image again .
> Processor specific optimizations are not generally believed to make
> much difference that is why only some packages where the benefit is
> identified such as the Linux Kernel have 686 packages .
> 
> Similar questions come up regularly .  I highly recommend trying to
> search @ http://www.ubuntuforums.org , and specifically see
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713&highlight=686 .
> 9. Installing a CPU specific kernel.
> 
> --
> Peace be in you ,
> Lloyd D Budd
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:18:50 +0100
> From: Dennis Kaarsemaker <dennis at kaarsemaker.net>
> Subject: Re: upgrade 386 to 686
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1101503930.4135.0.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 13:09 -0800, pol wrote:
> 
> > is there a simpler way, perhaps via synaptic or terminal, to upgrade
> > my ubuntu distro to the 686 version?
> 
> Jusp apt-get linux-686 to install the latest 686 kernel.
> --
> Dennis K.
>   And that's the way the cookie crumbles!
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:22:16 -0800
> From: Bob Nielsen <nielsen at oz.net>
> Subject: Re: upgrade 386 to 686
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20041126212216.GA4887 at ubuntu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 01:09:25PM -0800, pol wrote:
> > forgive the possibility of overwhelming ignorance here...
> >
> > i am new to PC architectures and have just realized that the compaq
> > box i have is in fact an old 686 box and not a 386. i installed the
> > 386 version of ubuntu on it and now i am wondering if the only way to
> > upgrade to the 686 version is by downloading the entire ubuntu image,
> > again.
> >
> > is there a simpler way, perhaps via synaptic or terminal, to upgrade
> > my ubuntu distro to the 686 version?
> >
> 
> Use synaptic to install linux-image-686.  This will depend on the
> latest version of the 686-opimized kernel.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:45:22 +0300
> From: Timothy Ha <linuxmail at yandex.ru>
> Subject: Re: Can't run VMWare 4.5.2 in Hoary
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <41A7A3F2.3030606 at yandex.ru>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed
> 
> Perhaps it is Hoary problem only. But at last I found a way:
> 
> 1. First install kernel 2.6.8-1-686 - Hoary comes with 3-386 instead.
> 2. Download and install kernel-headers 2.6.8-1-686, too
> 3. use the vmware-any-any patch
> 4. vmware-config.pl then compiles modules for vmware without errors.
> 
> Sorry for troubling you in such a short amount of time with several
> letters. Hope that my case helps somebody.
> 
> Timothy Ha wrote:
> 
> >
> > No, it runs and creates a new virtual machine. But when I click
> > "start" for the virtual machine, it does nothing. No debug message, too.
> >
> > What is going on with it?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Timothy Ha wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded the vmware-any-any patch .84 release
> >>
> >> 1) installed vmware newly
> >> 2) installed the patch by running sudo ./runme.pl from the patch's
> >> folder
> >> 3) sudo rm /etc/vmware/not_configured
> >>
> >> 4) RUN vmware successfully.
> >>
> >> Timothy
> >>
> >> Timothy Ha wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have updated from Warty to Hoary. Downloaded VMWare 4.5.2 and
> >>> installed it.
> >>>
> >>> But vmware-config.pl can't compile the vmmon modules. I downloaded
> >>> build-essential, kernel-headers-2.6.8-1-386 and -686 by Synaptic
> >>> from repos (hoary and hoary-universe...) but at the compilation it
> >>> says that kernel is currently 2.6.8-3-386 and even if the module
> >>> will be built, it won't load into the current kernel.
> >>>
> >>> What can I do to have VMWare running?
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> P.S: I have read about patch to /etc/init.d/vmware to have udev
> >>> working.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:54:08 +0100
> From: Petri Pennanen <suvarin at home.se>
> Subject: Re: Burning needs
> To: Ubuntu-users <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1101506048.4373.22.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 21:20 +0100, domestiko wrote:
> > Petri Pennanen wrote:
> > >To get the DMA status to stick you should edit /etc/hdparm.conf
> > >
> > >     sudo nano /etc/hdparm.conf
> > >
> > >make sure you have
> > >
> > >        /dev/hdc {
> > >                dma = on
> > >        }
> > >
> > >Then press Ctrl + O and Ctrl + X.
> > >
> > >- Petri
> > >
> > >
> > Should I know what DMA is? I have the same problem of low speed when
> > encoding in Grip, so, had I better make this trick for sticking DMA?
> 
> DMA is short for Direct Memory Acess. Wikipedia explains it better than
> I can:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access
> 
> Having DMA enabled will probably give a speed increase and reduce
> "stuttering". The reason it isn't enabled by default is that it's
> unstable for some devices. You can try switching it on and off with
> hdparm
> 
> On:
>         sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
> Off:
>         sudo hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc
> 
> The part about sticking is intended to make hdparm remember the setting
> between reboots.
> 
> > Do I feel like knowing very little? :)
> >
> > I  keep on learning
> 
> I know that feeling. Google, manpages and this list are a great help,
> but they do tend to make me a bit lazy ;)
> 
> - Petri
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:04:45 -0800
> From: Lloyd D Budd <foolswisdom at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: java
> To: Ubuntu list <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> 
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:42:20 +0000, Baza <baza at themauvezone.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Last
> > weekend I installed Firefox on a friends XP box, after cleaning it of
> > browser hijackers and other mal-wear. His favourite chat room uses a Java
> > interface, so when he hit it up popped the, 'jigsaw' plug-in missing thing;
> > something I expect many Ubuntu users are familiar with. But what a dream to
> > fix! Click it, java downloaded and installed by itself and was up and
> > running moments later. THAT'S what it should be like.
> 
> I have "click installed" other plug-ins in Ubuntu Firefox .  Anyone
> know why Java does not work that way here ?  Is it a Linux thang ?
> Ubuntu thang ?
> 
> --
> Peace be in you ,
> Lloyd D Budd
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:11:18 +0100
> From: Loptr Chaote <loptr.chaote at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Dropping support for Mozilla suite?
> To: Ubuntu Users <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <76912af8041126141128b43578 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:11:57 +0000, Colin Watson <cjwatson at canonical.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 04:55:24PM +0200, Simon Taplin wrote:
> >   2) drop mozilla-browser from CD
> >
> 
> This is my preference. I think most users won't even miss the Mozilla
> suite, seeing that there are other better alternative available today.
> 
> -L.C
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:06:17 -0500
> From: Tapeworm <ulist at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
> Subject: Re: Mirroring i386 locally
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <Tapeworm.1gcmuy at gs1.ubuntuforums.org>
> 
> I am interested in the same thing.  A usable offline repository would be
> a great tool.
> 
> The only problem with the idea is whoever hosts the iso would suffer
> huge bandwidth costs if the idea catches on.
> 
> Online repositories may not always be the "best" idea for all
> situations, but they are always the most efficient.
> 
> I will be interesting watching this and s.deleeuw's thread to see if
> anything comes of this idea...
> 
> Tapeworm
> 
> --
> Tapeworm
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:32:35 +0100
> From: Oliver Grawert <hostmaster at grawert.net>
> Subject: Re: java
> To: Ubuntu Users <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1101508355.7257.178.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> hi,
> Am Freitag, den 26.11.2004, 14:04 -0800 schrieb Lloyd D Budd:
> > I have "click installed" other plug-ins in Ubuntu Firefox .  Anyone
> > know why Java does not work that way here ?  Is it a Linux thang ?
> > Ubuntu thang ?
> nope, a sun thing, its their license:
> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
> 
> ciao
>         oli
> 
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