[ubuntu-us] Next US Teams Project Meeting

[Joe Terranova]

Zelut,

I voted you for Team Contact. I believe I may have even nominated you
for it. However, the only power you were afforded was that of a
contact to Ubuntu in regards to the web site and mailing list. If
you'd like, I'll go dig up the meeting discussion for you to take a
look, as you seem to have forgotten such. The consensus was a) yes
team contact, b) no team leader. This vote, as well, was on the spot,
with whoever was present at around midnight in the US Teams channel.
It was extremely informal, and with no notice whatsoever. We didn't,
however, think this an issue, because of how insignificant a position
it was. Over the past months, you have presented yourself to have much
more authority than you were ever given. This was a slow and gradual
change, indicative that the team does, in fact, need a team leader, as
leaders generally only spring up when there is need for one. For that
reason, I am for this vote.

Keep in mind, two key duties of a US Teams leader are to a) recognize
when there is a need to do things as a US Teams Leader, and to be
considered the authority on a topic, and b) recognize all the times
there isn't, and when it is best to seek a group decision. I think
that, before we elect any leader, we need to also have a discussion as
to what authority a team leader has, including the scope and amount of
such authority. Furthermore, we need to discuss the term of a team
leader; your position as team contact was open-ended. Terms generally
range from a few months to a year; you have been team contact for 5
months now. I believe that the term of Team Leader should be 6 months,
with discussion of said Leader's performance (and the option of
calling for a vote over the fitness of the current leader) every 2
months.

In summary, you were voted in as Team Contact, not as Team Leader,
which is what you have become. This is not a usurping of your
position; this is the creation of Team Leader, which happens to
include the position of Team Contact. I originally voted for a team
contact and no team leader; this appears not to be possible, as the
position of team contact has evolved into the position of team leader.
As my first choice isn't possible, my second choice is for the team to
decide what authority a leader has, and to elect a leader based on
those duties. If others feel you are qualified for such a position,
then someone will nominate you for it.

Regards,
Joe Terranova


On Nov 25, 2007 10:35 PM, Christer Edwards <christer.edwards at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2007 8:12 PM, Steve Stalcup <vorian at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > > Why do we need a team leader for the entire collection of teams?
> > I think that the project has become somewhat stagnant and is in need
> > of leadership.  With the recent channel change, there have been a
> > couple of instances where having a leader/contact would have made the
> > transition easier in regards to the IRC Council.
> >
> > I also think it is very important that everyone involved with the
> > project, mentor or not, should be able to elect this leader.
> >
> > I say +1 on a leader, and +1 on Eric.
>
> It would be nice to have a contact for the US Teams project, kind of
> like the one that was voted in during the July meeting.
> (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us/2007-July/000026.html)  I
> don't say this because I was the one voted in, but that you're
> completely ignoring that 1) this already exists and 2) that you never
> agreed with it in the first place.  Don't be passive agressive about
> your problems with me, if you've got a problem say it but please don't
> simply ignore that someone is already in this position and try to open
> a public vote without even mentioning that it would be usurping an
> existing position.
>
> I think, in the interest of transparency, you should update your
> agenda item to say "Proposition to remove Christer as current contact
> and replace with Eric"
>
> Christer
>
>
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