[ubuntu-us-ma] [Fwd: [FSF] Launching the Windows7sins Campaign - Join us Wednesday in Boston]

Daniel Hollocher danielhollocher at gmail.com
Mon Aug 31 18:37:50 BST 2009


Hey guys,
I made it down there.  I was there from about 1-1:45.  Everyone one
was actually very nice and relaxed about the issues.  I was worried
that they might be very narrow minded about the issues, but I found
them quite pleasant.

I saw them wearing GPLv3 shirts, so I had to ask about DRM (AFAIK,
GPLv3 rules out DRM and I'm usually quite practical.  Why can't we
just have limited DRM?).  I had a lengthy but productive conversation.
 Basically, DRM aims to reduce piracy by eliminating your fair use
rights.  That sounds reasonably unreasonable.  I feel comfortable
taking an anti-DRM stance, but I still feel nerdy doing so.

O well!
Dan

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Drascus<enchantedvisionsband at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yeah it's hard to get people to go to these types of events. The only
> people that would show up are people who truly believe that non-free
> software is wrong and a social injustice. There are not a whole lot of
> people who believe that so it's not that surprising. But at least it was
> in a visible place with a lot of people walking by. The Campaign has
> gotten some media attention which is good.
>
> Mike C.
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 03:30 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
>> I wasn't able to make it in the end, but here's some video coverage.
>> Looks like the only people there were FSF members, about 20 of them.
>> Sad.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnrFHB3YSx0
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 20:14, Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>         I was actually replying to Mike R. (leftyfb) sorry Mike C.
>>         (drascus).
>>
>>         I personally believe that social injustice is the right reason
>>         to be
>>         involved with Free Software and why the far reaching problems
>>         with
>>         non-free software do need to be explained.
>>
>>         But the event as proposed smacks of sensationalism and I
>>         haven't yet
>>         seen anything positive to balance the negative. Closed source
>>         won't eat
>>         your babies, but it may impoverish them educationally,
>>         economically,
>>         socially and politically.
>>
>>         Let me know whent he FSF office in _Boston_ has chosen a
>>         place/date for
>>         _their_ event. Not the world wide airy fairy details, but the
>>         real down
>>         to earth event happening in this city.
>>
>>         Martin,
>>
>>         On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:50 -0400, Drascus wrote:
>>         > Well software freedom day is no big mystery it's september
>>         19th
>>         > http://softwarefreedomday.org/ . I am perhaps one of the few
>>         that think
>>         > proprietary software is a social injustice. It's hard to
>>         point out an
>>         > injustice without talking about why it is wrong. Some people
>>         see that as
>>         > being negative I see it as being informative. After all
>>         Windows, MacOS
>>         > and just about every other proprietary vendor has no problem
>>         with trying
>>         > to persuade people into believing that FOSS is bad. So why
>>         should we not
>>         > counter and point out why we are good and why they are doing
>>         wrong. I
>>         > understand the whole two wrongs don't make a right
>>         philosophy. But one
>>         > wrong with no rebuttal doesn't make right either. if you
>>         look where the
>>         > proprietary giants are taking things if they own the future
>>         a scary
>>         > future it will be. We need to maintain if nothing else a
>>         counter
>>         > balance.
>>         >
>>         > Mike C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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