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[Drascus]

That is what I tend to see in my fellow FSF crowd as well Dan. But
people have been lead to believe that we are a bunch of radical crazies
who are confrontational. That belief has been spread even by other open
source and free software community members. It makes it very hard to do
advocacy when any one assumes what you are about to say will be crazy
and radical. hopefully your experiences and mine with them will help to
turn the tide on that belie. 

Mike C. 

On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 13:37 -0400, Daniel Hollocher wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I made it down there.  I was there from about 1-1:45.  Everyone one
> was actually very nice and relaxed about the issues.  I was worried
> that they might be very narrow minded about the issues, but I found
> them quite pleasant.
> 
> I saw them wearing GPLv3 shirts, so I had to ask about DRM (AFAIK,
> GPLv3 rules out DRM and I'm usually quite practical.  Why can't we
> just have limited DRM?).  I had a lengthy but productive conversation.
>  Basically, DRM aims to reduce piracy by eliminating your fair use
> rights.  That sounds reasonably unreasonable.  I feel comfortable
> taking an anti-DRM stance, but I still feel nerdy doing so.
> 
> O well!
> Dan
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Drascus<enchantedvisionsband at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Yeah it's hard to get people to go to these types of events. The only
> > people that would show up are people who truly believe that non-free
> > software is wrong and a social injustice. There are not a whole lot of
> > people who believe that so it's not that surprising. But at least it was
> > in a visible place with a lot of people walking by. The Campaign has
> > gotten some media attention which is good.
> >
> > Mike C.
> >
> > On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 03:30 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote:
> >> I wasn't able to make it in the end, but here's some video coverage.
> >> Looks like the only people there were FSF members, about 20 of them.
> >> Sad.
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnrFHB3YSx0
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 20:14, Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>         I was actually replying to Mike R. (leftyfb) sorry Mike C.
> >>         (drascus).
> >>
> >>         I personally believe that social injustice is the right reason
> >>         to be
> >>         involved with Free Software and why the far reaching problems
> >>         with
> >>         non-free software do need to be explained.
> >>
> >>         But the event as proposed smacks of sensationalism and I
> >>         haven't yet
> >>         seen anything positive to balance the negative. Closed source
> >>         won't eat
> >>         your babies, but it may impoverish them educationally,
> >>         economically,
> >>         socially and politically.
> >>
> >>         Let me know whent he FSF office in _Boston_ has chosen a
> >>         place/date for
> >>         _their_ event. Not the world wide airy fairy details, but the
> >>         real down
> >>         to earth event happening in this city.
> >>
> >>         Martin,
> >>
> >>         On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:50 -0400, Drascus wrote:
> >>         > Well software freedom day is no big mystery it's september
> >>         19th
> >>         > http://softwarefreedomday.org/ . I am perhaps one of the few
> >>         that think
> >>         > proprietary software is a social injustice. It's hard to
> >>         point out an
> >>         > injustice without talking about why it is wrong. Some people
> >>         see that as
> >>         > being negative I see it as being informative. After all
> >>         Windows, MacOS
> >>         > and just about every other proprietary vendor has no problem
> >>         with trying
> >>         > to persuade people into believing that FOSS is bad. So why
> >>         should we not
> >>         > counter and point out why we are good and why they are doing
> >>         wrong. I
> >>         > understand the whole two wrongs don't make a right
> >>         philosophy. But one
> >>         > wrong with no rebuttal doesn't make right either. if you
> >>         look where the
> >>         > proprietary giants are taking things if they own the future
> >>         a scary
> >>         > future it will be. We need to maintain if nothing else a
> >>         counter
> >>         > balance.
> >>         >
> >>         > Mike C.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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