[ubuntu-uk] Um, why am I blocked from #ubuntu-uk

scoundrel50a scoundrel50a at gmail.com
Sun Jul 24 09:00:24 UTC 2011

On 24/07/11 09:15, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 24 July 2011 08:46, scoundrel50a<scoundrel50a at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 24/07/11 08:34, Alan Pope wrote:
>>> Yes, and this was causing some confusion. There is no such thing as
>>> 'Oneiric 3.0.0...'. What you have is the Linux Kernel 3.0.0.. built
>>> for/on Oneiric. It's a subtle difference but important when trying to
>>> articulate what the issue was.
>> See, this is where it is confusing, to me that says its Oneiric, where does
>> it say its Linux, built for/on Oneiric, it doesnt. How am I supposed to know
>> that? That is why I am confused, which makes it confusing for everybody
>> else.....
> Well, the url you got it from is:-
> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric/linux-image-3.0.0-0300rc1-generic_3.0.0-0300rc1.201105310830_amd64.deb

Ah Well, you missed something, the url I got it from was and already posted

The title that comes on top of that page is

  Index of /~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric

I chose the .deb package from found on the page......

Bit of confusion, url mentions oneiric, and title of page mentions oneiric

Slightly different to what you posted...........where in any of that 
does it say there its Linux based on/for oneiric. Only when you get to 
choose the package is where it forgets to mention oneiric.......to you 
that is accepted to me it is confusing.....
> The word 'kernel' appears twice, and 'Linux' appears once.
> However it's largely irrelevant. I'm not saying you _should_ know,
> just clearing up what was said on IRC yesterday. So now you do know.
> What you're doing is a relatively advanced thing. We don't often
> recommend people go off and install random kernels to see if they fix
> a problem, and manually installing debs isn't exactly an everyday
> occurrence, so it's hardly surprising you didn't pick up on the subtle
> differences. Anyway, now that's cleared up.
>>> What probably really needs to be done is to figure out at what point
>>> the kernel (or whatever) broke the backlight issue. Sometime between
>>> the kernel supplied with Ubuntu 10.10 and the one supplied with Ubuntu
>>> 11.04 a change was made which broke it. Finding exactly which change
>>> (or changes) did that is not easy.
>> How will that happen,
> Well, this is a bit tricky. You need to find at which kernel release
> the issue started happening. Once you know that you can do a 'git
> bisect' to exact change that was made which broke the backlight.
> There's an interesting blog (albeit about Gentoo, not Ubuntu) about it
> here:-
> http://www.reactivated.net/weblog/archives/2006/01/using-git-bisect-to-find-buggy-kernel-patches
I have no chance.........popey had a look, spent ages trying different 
things via ssh, nothing worked, if he cant, I dont have a chance.......

> Sure, it's frustrating, that's clear.
> Al.

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