[ubuntu-uk] Um, why am I blocked from #ubuntu-uk

[scoundrel50a]

On 24/07/11 09:15, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 24 July 2011 08:46, scoundrel50a<scoundrel50a at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> On 24/07/11 08:34, Alan Pope wrote:
>>> Yes, and this was causing some confusion. There is no such thing as
>>> 'Oneiric 3.0.0...'. What you have is the Linux Kernel 3.0.0.. built
>>> for/on Oneiric. It's a subtle difference but important when trying to
>>> articulate what the issue was.
>> See, this is where it is confusing, to me that says its Oneiric, where does
>> it say its Linux, built for/on Oneiric, it doesnt. How am I supposed to know
>> that? That is why I am confused, which makes it confusing for everybody
>> else.....
> Well, the url you got it from is:-
>
> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric/linux-image-3.0.0-0300rc1-generic_3.0.0-0300rc1.201105310830_amd64.deb

Ah Well, you missed something, the url I got it from was and already posted
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric/ 
<http://kernel.ubuntu.com/%7Ekernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric/>

The title that comes on top of that page is


  Index of /~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric


I chose the .deb package from found on the page......
linux-headers-3.0.0-0300rc1-generic_3.0.0-0300rc1.201105310830_amd64.deb 
<http://kernel.ubuntu.com/%7Ekernel-ppa/mainline/v3.0-rc1-oneiric/linux-headers-3.0.0-0300rc1-generic_3.0.0-0300rc1.201105310830_amd64.deb> 



Bit of confusion, url mentions oneiric, and title of page mentions oneiric

Slightly different to what you posted...........where in any of that 
does it say there its Linux based on/for oneiric. Only when you get to 
choose the package is where it forgets to mention oneiric.......to you 
that is accepted to me it is confusing.....
>
> The word 'kernel' appears twice, and 'Linux' appears once.
>
> However it's largely irrelevant. I'm not saying you _should_ know,
> just clearing up what was said on IRC yesterday. So now you do know.
> What you're doing is a relatively advanced thing. We don't often
> recommend people go off and install random kernels to see if they fix
> a problem, and manually installing debs isn't exactly an everyday
> occurrence, so it's hardly surprising you didn't pick up on the subtle
> differences. Anyway, now that's cleared up.
>
>>> What probably really needs to be done is to figure out at what point
>>> the kernel (or whatever) broke the backlight issue. Sometime between
>>> the kernel supplied with Ubuntu 10.10 and the one supplied with Ubuntu
>>> 11.04 a change was made which broke it. Finding exactly which change
>>> (or changes) did that is not easy.
>> How will that happen,
> Well, this is a bit tricky. You need to find at which kernel release
> the issue started happening. Once you know that you can do a 'git
> bisect' to exact change that was made which broke the backlight.
> There's an interesting blog (albeit about Gentoo, not Ubuntu) about it
> here:-
>
> http://www.reactivated.net/weblog/archives/2006/01/using-git-bisect-to-find-buggy-kernel-patches
I have no chance.........popey had a look, spent ages trying different 
things via ssh, nothing worked, if he cant, I dont have a chance.......

(snipped)
> Sure, it's frustrating, that's clear.
>
> Al.
>

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