[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu - Wrong Direction?

Alan Bell alan.bell at libertus.co.uk
Fri Dec 2 12:40:56 UTC 2011

On 02/12/11 12:24, scoundrel50a wrote:
> Going round in cirlces again, we had this discussion not long ago and 
> it seems every year we have the same one (and I remember 7.04 being 
> intropduced), and the same things are being talked about and the same 
> attitude if you dont like it, go somewhere else......Ubuntu wont get 
> anywhere until you get a good support system in place, 'for everybody'.
there is an incredible community support framework in place globally. 
The LoCo teams, plus the IRC channels for LoCos and the official #ubuntu 
IRC channel. Just watch that for a few hours and see people being 
supported and helped.
> People wont stay because its just not there, and to be told if you 
> dont like it go somewhere else even if your just talking to one 
> person, somebody comes on and sees that, its bye.....ok, some people 
> dont like change, I dont like Unity, I think its too clunky, and that 
> is before you get to the bugs.......it seems that those of that dont 
> like have to lump it and its tough........
no, you don't have to lump it. You can make it the way you want it to 
be, or go use something else. If you want to be listened to there are 
several ways, deploy Ubuntu across many thousands of desktops, sell many 
thousands of computers with Ubuntu preinstalled, or contribute to 
Ubuntu. The third way is a totally achievable option. If you get 
involved in the ISO testing team, or the Accessibility team or the QA 
team or the Ubuntu Friendly team or participate in session at UDS or 
contribute to various other projects that make up Ubuntu then you will 
be listened to. Just using Ubuntu on your own computer and wanting it to 
be different doesn't count for much. Sorry.
> I still have a computer that is fairly new, and I cant get 11.04 or 
> 11.10 to install on it, and I still havent been able to get help to 
> see if it will ever be able to get it to work, I had to buy a new 
> computer another one, not many people will do that....very few in fact 
> would.......and I am getting support from the company that I bought it 
> from, or I would have had similar problems, not being able to get 
> support.....
> You need to decide if you are going to keep with just business or 
> business and personal, which ever way you do it, you have to sort the 
> support out......or every year the same subject is going to come 
> up....and still no real decisions have been made.......
this I do agree with, and I think there is too much focus on personal 
use. Too much messing about with media players and not enough focus on 
business use-cases. Apparently that is going to be addressed this cycle 
with a corporate desktop reference build, but I have not seen much 
action on that yet.
> That is what I mean by static, its not moving forward.....
this doesn't square up. You can't say it is changing and you don't like 
change and you want it to be the way it was, and simultaneously say it 
is static.

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