[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Re: [OT] - MS XP Pro OEM CD - How?]

alan c aeclist at candt.waitrose.com
Sun Feb 17 19:25:13 GMT 2008

Chris Oattes wrote:
> Sean Miller said the following on 17/02/08 10:02:
>> On 2/16/08, Eddie Armstrong <eddie_armstrong at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Well what started out as a simple request has turned into a lot of
>>> unpleasantness:
>>> I don't know how to make it any more obvious I was seeking a *legal*
>>> solution and hoped somebody here might have one. I've all ready agreed
>>> that what you say may be correct in essence not necessarily the detail
>>> but I really can't be bothered arguing it any more.
>> I really don't think Micro$oft is going to go to all the effort of suing
>> somebody for re-installing an OEM machine using somebody else's CD (be that
>> their physical CD or a burned image of it), I really don't... it would be
>> incredibly pedantic to classify such a thing a piracy as the software is
>> protected by licence keys and is useless without them... I would call
>> copying the CD a "technical infringement of the licence terms", no more than
>> that.  Piracy would have to involve also sharing the key or distributing a
>> hacked copy that doesn't require a key, something that has not happened here
>> at all... whether a copy has been burned from one's own CD  (legal, I
>> believe, for backup purposes) or from somebody else's what is arrived at in
>> the end is the same... an installation of Windows XP using a valid OEM
>> licence on the machine for which that licence was supplied...
>> Sean
> I don't think the issue is that you will get fined loads of money for 
> copying a Windows CD. The point is that it is, at best, against the 
> terms of the license, and at worse could be considered piracy. Therefore 
> the act of making a copy of the CD for someone else is "wrong" whichever 
> way you look at it, and is not something that should be promoted on this 
> list.

That was simply the way I understood things too, it is more a matter 
of principle than anything. But principles are important. It would be 
pretty bad politics to have a MS comment that the Ubuntu UK list was 
colluding in something - anything - that was against a licence 
agreement. Licence agreements are all that stand between us and the 
world of proprietary software and all that it leads to.    GPL and 
variants that is.
alan cocks
Kubuntu user#10391

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