ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

Dylan McCall dylanmccall at gmail.com
Thu Mar 25 02:52:18 GMT 2010


2010/3/24 David Planella <david.planella at ubuntu.com>:
> El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 11:29 +0100, en/na Gabor Kelemen va
> escriure:
>> Timo Jyrinki írta:
>> > 2010/3/24 David Planella <david.planella at ubuntu.com>:
>> >
>> >> It would be interesting to hear what other teams say, especially those
>> >> who have already completed translations.
>> >>
>> >
>> > +1 otherwise, but in these kind of "small changes in original strings"
>> > situations I'd prefer some place the current translations would be
>> > kept. There is effort put to those, and if eg. the English string has
>> > one word changed, the high quality translation should not be lost by
>> > forcing all translators to think about the new string from a fresh
>> > start.
>> >
>> >
>> Gettext's fuzzy matching could be used here (like on a per-template
>> basis), but that is is bad, mmmkay? :P
>> However, your translations are not lost:
>> click the "Translation details" link, then on the "filter" link besides
>> the translator names under "Contributors to this translation". You can
>> add &batch=300 to the end of the address, so you can see more of the
>> existing translations, including obsolete ones. For example, in
>> ubiquity-debconf, my old translations are marked by a ~:
>> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/hu/+filter?person=kelemeng&batch=300
>>  From this point, copy-paste is easy - I do this whenever they correct
>> some typos in the ddtp templates :).
>>
>> Regards
>> Gabor Kelemen
>>
>
> Ok, due to popular acclaim and Gabor's eloquent way of putting it, I
> think we can go for it :)
>
> Dylan, do you think you could get a package with these changes uploaded
> by tomorrow's documentation string freeze? If not, I'd favour Milo's
> suggestion on extending the translation deadline if necessary, as we did
> last cycle for another freeze exception in the slideshow.
>
> Thanks!
>
> El Mi 24 de 03 de 2010 a les 12:02 +0200, en/na Timo Jyrinki va
> escriure:
>>
>> +1 otherwise, but in these kind of "small changes in original strings"
>> situations I'd prefer some place the current translations would be
>> kept. There is effort put to those, and if eg. the English string has
>> one word changed, the high quality translation should not be lost by
>> forcing all translators to think about the new string from a fresh
>> start.
>>
>
> Yes, the solution would be to provide better suggestions than fuzzy
> matching in this cases (now LP discards fuzzies), especially in long
> messages such as the slideshow's. This is a long standing wish, but in
> the meantime, you can use Gabor's workaround - which incidentally was an
> eye-opener to me as well :)
>
>> I would otherwise download the current PO to be looked as a reference
>> for the new strings when they come, but I'm currently getting
>> "Unexpected form data" when trying to export in both edge and non-edge
>> launchpad. Please don't update the templates at least until you have
>> all PO:s downloaded somewhere :)
>
> I've just had a quick chat with Timo on IRC and it seems to be a browser
> issue, so we seem to be ok there.
>
> In any case, I've exported all current translations and put the PO files
> here for all languages, to make it easier to partly reuse the similar
> existing translations:
>
>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/Universe (at the end of
> the list)
>
> Regards,
> David.
>
> --
> David Planella
> Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
> david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com
> www.ubuntu.com
>
>
>
>

Hello,

Thanks for your patience, everyone. The new strings should hit Rosetta
in a while.

About the translation deadlines, I'll keep you posted. At this point I
fully intend not to mess with anything in this project except CSS,
bugs and the en-GB / en-CA translations, so I'll spend some of that
extra time chatting about translation deadlines.

We can't rely on changing the image _after_ the first RC, but we may
be able to do something just before the 22nd (instead of the 15th)…


Dylan



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