Desktop change consequences

Wed Apr 10 16:08:27 UTC 2013

Thanks for the kind words!

I prefer synaptic over software center, too. Adding to what Andrew said, 
synaptic shows you more detailed information.

Alf

On 10. april 2013 16:07, Pete Wright wrote:
> Thanks, Andrew.
> You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels.
> cheers
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>   "I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic to
>> keep it up to date?"  If you use update-manager and have automatic updates
>> turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic for anything.
>>
>> However, Synaptic is *very* useful when you're searching for packages to
>> install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike the
>> software-center).  Synaptic is faster on my older machines (IBM/Lenovo
>> T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have fancy graphics,
>> ratings, reviews, etc.  Also, being able to install multiple items just by
>> checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to me than finding
>> each individual software in software center.
>>
>> As far as updating goes, I almost  never use the "update-manager" (had an
>> issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but stopped using it then),
>> I find it easier to do via command-line:
>>
>> sudo apt-get update
>> Sudo apt-get upgrade
>>
>> I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to keep on top
>> of things.
>>
>> -AND Huys
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
>>
>>   Thanks, Alf.
>>   So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the repository
>> I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date?
>>   Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely
>> irrelevant/obsolete?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no>wrote:
>>
>>> No,
>>>
>>> Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will always ask. It
>>> just means updates are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu team and
>>> that they may (or may not) be provided by the community.
>>>
>>> Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but not for
>>> Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't let you
>>> download software they don't own through their channels.
>>>
>>> But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software repositories
>>> is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing programs is so
>>> simple and updates automatically taken care of (if there are any).
>>>
>>> Alf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates automatically, but
>>>> many
>>>> items in the Software Centre say "Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be
>>>> provided by community" or something like that. Are these
>>>> packages/programs
>>>> automagically updating themselves in the background? Even the main Ubuntu
>>>> thingy asks me before updating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)? Unless it's
>>>>> become
>>>>> abandonware (no more in development), updating should be automatically
>>>>> taken care of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks again, Alf
>>>>>> Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket.
>>>>>> Also, after this morning's update, I find I am now able to put my own
>>>>>> dubious artwork on the desktop.
>>>>>> I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic do? I
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> it periodically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright <pnwright at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I did and it didn't
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> my computer, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I don't use unity, so I might be off target. But "heads up search"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   sounds
>>>>>>>> like what synapse is doing for me. It's a small app that finds
>>>>>>>> anything,
>>>>>>>> files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to launch, type a few letters
>>>>>>>> (just f
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> first suggestion is firefox, first suggestion adapts to what is most
>>>>>>>> used).
>>>>>>>> Navigate through suggestions with arrows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Synapse is available in software center and synaptic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for changing desktop image, for me right-click on the desktop and
>>>>>>>> choosing desktop settings gets me there. Or [ctrl-space], [de] and
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> suggestion is desktop settings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck on ubuntu studio, and never be afraid to ask!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>> Alf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08. april 2013 21:31, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    I guess I would say the functions that play to my inherent
>>>>>>>> laziness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Love the "heads up" search, especially. Nothing one can't do in
>>>>>>>>> Studio
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> a few more clicks, though.
>>>>>>>>> And I can't change the desktop picture to one of my own in Studio --
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> no, I won't be surprised to learn that is a bug or glitch specific
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> wheezy old computer, not the OS.
>>>>>>>>> grins
>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Alf Haakon Lund <
>>>>>>>>> alf at mellomrommet.no
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 08. april 2013 19:45, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     If this question is too “newbie” or worse, heretical, please
>>>>>>>>>> forgive
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   and
>>>>>>>>>>> then ignore me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I changed from Ubuntu 12.10 to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 primarily
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP
>>>>>>>>>>> was slightly flakey (main problem was it wouldn't accept ctr key
>>>>>>>>>>> combination like ctr+ left click to select area for clone brush)
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> hoped Studio would not have something hijacking the ctrl
>>>>>>>>>>> function. I
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> do lots of content creation (primarily writing and art
>>>>>>>>>>> photography)
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> Studio seemed a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I find myself missing the much-maligned Unity desktop. So,
>>>>>>>>>>> can I
>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>> to Unity desktop in Studio without horrible consequences? (And if
>>>>>>>>>>> so,
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>> do I do it?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or is nobody checking to see if Unity works with all the rest of
>>>>>>>>>>> Studio,
>>>>>>>>>>> and so I should just shut up and sit down?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     I agree with other answers you got, better ask than not. And,
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   curiosity, I've got my own question: Which functions of Unity do
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> miss?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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