Desktop change consequences
Andrew Huys
musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com
Wed Apr 10 17:11:01 UTC 2013
Beware of "sudo", it gives you godlike powers...
the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two
computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school machine,
the other being your experimental setup. Try the new commands on the
experimental machine, in case they don't work out like you hope. Once
you're comfortable with them, use them on the production machine.
Good luck!
Ben
On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
> Thanks, Andrew.
> You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous levels.
> cheers
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Huys
> <musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com <mailto:musiek.sparta.nc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> "I get something from the repository I do not have to use synaptic
> to keep it up to date?" If you use update-manager and have
> automatic updates turned on, no, you do not need to use synaptic
> for anything.
>
> However, Synaptic is /very/ useful when you're searching for
> packages to install and maybe don't know the names (if you dislike
> the software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older machines
> (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center, as it does not have
> fancy graphics, ratings, reviews, etc. Also, being able to
> install multiple items just by checking the boxes and clicking
> [apply] seems easier to me than finding each individual software
> in software center.
>
> As far as updating goes, I almost never use the "update-manager"
> (had an issue with it at one time, don't remember what, but
> stopped using it then), I find it easier to do via command-line:
>
> sudo apt-get update
> Sudo apt-get upgrade
>
> I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember) just to
> keep on top of things.
>
> -AND Huys
>
>
>
> On 04/10/2013 09:46 AM, Pete Wright wrote:
>> Thanks, Alf.
>> So, to make sure I understand you, if I get something from the
>> repository I do not have to use synaptic to keep it up to date?
>> Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it completely
>> irrelevant/obsolete?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund
>> <alf at mellomrommet.no <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>> wrote:
>>
>> No,
>>
>> Nothing updates in the background, the update manager will
>> always ask. It just means updates are not taken care of by
>> canonical's Ubuntu team and that they may (or may not) be
>> provided by the community.
>>
>> Kind of the same way Microsoft provides updates for IE but
>> not for Firefox, although the example is a bit flawed as
>> Microsoft won't let you download software they don't own
>> through their channels.
>>
>> But that's the wonder of open source! Actually the software
>> repositories is one of my favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and
>> installing programs is so simple and updates automatically
>> taken care of (if there are any).
>>
>> Alf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright wrote:
>>
>> Really? Updating automatic? I knew Ubuntu updates
>> automatically, but many
>> items in the Software Centre say "Updates not provided by
>> Ubuntu...may be
>> provided by community" or something like that. Are these
>> packages/programs
>> automagically updating themselves in the background? Even
>> the main Ubuntu
>> thingy asks me before updating.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf Haakon Lund
>> <alf at mellomrommet.no <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>>wrote:
>>
>> Not sure what you mean here (updates not included)?
>> Unless it's become
>> abandonware (no more in development), updating should
>> be automatically
>> taken care of.
>>
>> Anyway glad to hear it was what you looked for.
>>
>> Alf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09. april 2013 13:54, Pete Wright wrote:
>>
>> Thanks again, Alf
>> Synapse aboard and seems just the ticket.
>> Also, after this morning's update, I find I am
>> now able to put my own
>> dubious artwork on the desktop.
>> I see Synapse updates are not included in Ubuntu;
>> will Synaptic do? I run
>> it periodically.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete Wright
>> <pnwright at gmail.com <mailto:pnwright at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse.
>>
>> And as to desktop pic, I think that is what I
>> did and it didn't work.
>> It's
>> my computer, I think.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Alf Haakon
>> Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no
>> <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't use unity, so I might be off
>> target. But "heads up search"
>>
>> sounds
>> like what synapse is doing for me. It's a
>> small app that finds anything,
>> files or programs. Hit ctrl-space to
>> launch, type a few letters (just f
>> and
>> first suggestion is firefox, first
>> suggestion adapts to what is most
>> used).
>> Navigate through suggestions with arrows.
>>
>> Synapse is available in software center
>> and synaptic.
>>
>> As for changing desktop image, for me
>> right-click on the desktop and
>> choosing desktop settings gets me there.
>> Or [ctrl-space], [de] and first
>> suggestion is desktop settings.
>>
>> Good luck on ubuntu studio, and never be
>> afraid to ask!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Alf
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08. april 2013 21:31, Pete Wright wrote:
>>
>> I guess I would say the functions that
>> play to my inherent laziness.
>>
>> Love the "heads up" search,
>> especially. Nothing one can't do in
>> Studio
>> with
>> a few more clicks, though.
>> And I can't change the desktop
>> picture to one of my own in Studio --
>> and
>> no, I won't be surprised to learn
>> that is a bug or glitch specific to
>> my
>> wheezy old computer, not the OS.
>> grins
>> Pete
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Alf
>> Haakon Lund <alf at mellomrommet.no
>> <mailto:alf at mellomrommet.no>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08. april 2013 19:45, Pete
>> Wright wrote:
>>
>>
>> If this question is too
>> "newbie" or worse, heretical,
>> please forgive
>>
>> and
>> then ignore me.
>>
>> I changed from Ubuntu 12.10
>> to Ubuntu Studio 12.10
>> primarily because
>> GIMP
>> was slightly flakey (main
>> problem was it wouldn't
>> accept ctr key
>> combination like ctr+ left
>> click to select area for
>> clone brush) and
>> I
>> hoped Studio would not have
>> something hijacking the ctrl
>> function. I
>> also
>> do lots of content creation
>> (primarily writing and art
>> photography)
>> so
>> Studio seemed a good choice.
>>
>> Now I find myself missing the
>> much-maligned Unity desktop.
>> So, can I
>> change
>> to Unity desktop in Studio
>> without horrible
>> consequences? (And if so,
>> how
>> do I do it?)
>>
>> Or is nobody checking to see
>> if Unity works with all the
>> rest of
>> Studio,
>> and so I should just shut up
>> and sit down?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>> I agree with other answers
>> you got, better ask than not.
>> And, out
>> of
>>
>> curiosity, I've got my own
>> question: Which functions of
>> Unity do you
>> miss?
>>
>> Alf
>>
>>
>>
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