Maverick and RT

Tim Cook timothywayne.cook at
Wed Sep 29 14:41:10 BST 2010

Hi All,

I am not trying to start a flame war.  Although I am a newbie here and
new to using real time kernels.  I am not new to computers (since 1976)
nor to open source (since 1994).  

As such, I think that I am in a position to say the below and I am *not*
picking on Jeremy.  He just happens to be the one that wrote this email.

If you are not in a position to be able to write code etc.  Then there
are a ton of other things you can do to help. Actively recruit on other
mailing lists for people to help out the author.  I see college students
all the time looking for projects like this on the Google Summer of Code
mailing lists.  Help Alessio put together a project plan and specific
tasks that will interest the GSoC team so the project gets accepted in
next years list.  

Cash incentives may or may not be interesting to Alessio. But think
about this.  If you, like Jeremy, *cannot work* without realtime
support.  Then what is the benefit of this project worth to you?
Probably a great deal.  Pool some users together and come up with some
money.  Your alternative(s) are what?  Probably spending lots of cash on
proprietary solutions.  If a group of you cannot come up with enough
cash to make it interesting for Alessio then you can probably hire a
couple of college undergrads that love music and love computer science.
Pay them to accomplish certain tasks as laid out by Alessio. Or to fix
certain bugs or add enhancements you want.  

My point is that there are a number of ways to help.  Remember that
Alessio's time has value.  Depending on your perspective it has
different values for each of us.  This is not a capitalist community.
But you need to look inside yourself and see if yo are contributing to
the betterment of the community or just living off of it. 

This is kind of a rhetorical email.  As I  said, it isn't meant to pick
on anyone.  In fact, it isn't even helpful to discuss the abilities of
any individual to contribute.  It is best if you decide how and what you
can contribute.  But, contribute you must.  otherwise these types of
project do not continue. 

Have a great day all.  


On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 15:12 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
> Hello all,
> I might be able to help out testing and once I become confident enough
> with packaging I could help with some of the other aspects of
> maintaining a kernel. It would be great if a real-time kernel would be
> available for 11.04 again, which depends of course if there will be a
> real-time patchset available for the kernel 11.04 will ship with. Afaik
> the current RT patchset maintainer is Thomas Gleixner.
> But I'd like to stress that I MIGHT be able to help out, it also depends
> if other people want to participate and if I have enough time (I am
> before all an active musician).
> Speaking for myself, I can't work without a real-time kernel. I need the
> tasklet API that a real-time kernel provides so I can use rtirq. Without
> rtirq my FireWire devices don't work properly at low latencies or don't
> work at all. And even on systems that run well without a real-time
> kernel I prefer using such a kernel so that I can get the best
> performance out of my systems.
> Best,
> Jeremy

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