[ubuntu-studio-devel] New version of Calf plugins (and a failed ISO build)

Len Ovens len at ovenwerks.net
Sat Nov 24 21:15:36 UTC 2018

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, Ross Gammon wrote:

> On 11/24/18 8:32 PM, Len Ovens wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
>>> You all might have notice the "fail mail" we just got for our ISO. This
>>> is due to the new version of calf deprecating calf-ladspa per the
>>> developer. Ross or Len: Would you mind removing the calf-ladspa package
>>> from the seed? I would except, uh... I've never done it. XD
>>> That said, I'm very happy to see this progress. 0.90.0 dropped a year
>>> ago and was a major change for that package, and 0.90.1 dropped in July
>>> as a bugfix. Hopefully this will make the Ardour people happy as well
>>> since the old version was messing with compatibility.
>> The ardour people would be happy if this was released to 16.04 -
>> 18.19... don't hold your breath.
> Getting calf backported to Xenial is not likely. I have had backports
> waiting for sponsorship for years. Nobody seems interested in backports
> anymore.

Exactly, however, from RG's perspective, he should never have to tell a 
ubuntu user to remove this or that package or put up with sw where there 
is an available upgrade upstream. so keeping Ardour devs happy is pretty 
much an impossible dream. It is best to be aware that RG (at least) does 
not like ubuntu and assumes any trouble he has with a ubuntu user is 
ubuntu's fault.

I have found that the only problem with Ubuntu is that it is the easiest 
Linux to access and so gets more newy users than Arch (for example). I 
have found that more than 50% of all ubuntu user problems are using 
Ardour/Jack with a USB mic and internal playback.

> We could provide it in a ppa, (probably also with a new metapackage),
> and advise those interested in using the ppa that lmms will be removed.

The PPA route would probably be best.

> Alternatively, we could go for an SRU (Stable Release Update) with the

Those are more trouble than they are worth and might break someones 
important project :P best not to.

Ubuntu is not a rolling release and people choose it for that reason. I 
was not sugesting we change things, just trying to explain (badly) that 
pleasing Ardour devs is not likely so don't worry to much about that. 
(They would have you remove all Calf plugins anyway)

Sorry for the confusion.

Len Ovens

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