[ubuntu-studio-devel] support for wine-rt out-of-box?
len at ovenwerks.net
Sat Aug 20 14:30:20 UTC 2016
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Hank Stanglow wrote:
> Hello, I am a Web Developer, Artist, Musician, and long time user of Ubuntu
> Studio. You guys do a great job! This distribution gives me the best
> out-of-box experience for Web Development and I find the Art and Publishing
> tools perfectly adequate for my needs. Music and Video? Not so much, but this
> a problem for all Linux distributions. In fact, after seven years of fumbling
> with the JACK/ALSA/Pulse nightmare I've given up using native tools and now
> use WINE exclusively for audio work. Even KX Studio has more problems than I
Wow. Your experience and mine are completely different. I have never
managed to do anything useful in wine RT or not :) I get frustrated almost
as fast as I get frustrated using windows. My experience with
pulse->jack->alsa has been one of stability and just works once properly
set up. The main trick I have used is to use pulse only as a front end to
jack (jack runs at startup) with pulse having the alsa and udev modules
Pulse in particular (jack as well) has seen much improvement over the past
few years and there is a huge difference from 2012 to now.
> care to deal with and the only thing I take from its repos is wine-rt. If I
> were to make ONE suggestion for Ubuntu Studio it would be to have a super
> stable, low-latency WINE-rt environment for audio users (or good instructions
> on how to set one up).
Including the package (if it was available) is one thing, but I could not
recomend using wine for sound over native linux solutions. wine-rt relies
on alsa in any case. That is including wine-rt so someone who really wants
to use can is one thing. Setting wine-rt up to be default, not so much.
> That said, I am currently NOT using Ubuntu Studio as of 16.04. This is
> because of one reason only, that is, too many bugs in Thunar. I know could
> install a different tool (pcmanfm is great), but the file manager is an
> integral part of a system and I really love Thunar above others. I also know
I am only aware of one bug in Thunar (lots of renaming crashes). I hope
you have reported any others as well.
Note: While I would not run Wine-RT for audio work, I am in no way
suggesting you should do things different than you are. The only reason to
run audio things in wine is the use of windows VST(i) plugins. I would
suggest though in that case just using a windows platform. I am happy to
report that there is a growing number of VST(i) developers who are
supplying native Linux VST plugins these days including pianotech (the
best piano synth I have heard yet).
It may be that you require other Windows applications for your work and so
have to run wine of some sort anyway.
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