[ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

[ttoine]

Attached is what I have at the moment. You have to understand that it not
possible do what you want with embroidery, this is not a 1200dpi printing
system or a retina screen equivalent. Please have a look to Hellotux shop,
they have the same kind of issues with other logos. Imho, the issue is OUR
logo, not the embroidery: it has been designed for screen, not for print,
and it has too much details. Also, we don't really have clear
specifications if the white is white, or if it is transparent.

I own a polo with Eclipse Foundation logo, embroidered too, and it has not
all the details. It is not possible.

Also, you might take in consideration that many other GNU/Linux
distributions are working with Hellotux, and trust them. I don't give the
license to someone I can't trust. And if they bullshit me, I can ask to
remove the swag from their shop...

"If a company is selling clothes with the COF, then they are free to do so,
but it's questionable to announce this by an official Ubuntu Studio
channel." -> the fact is that they are not free to do so: Ubuntu Studio and
the logo are trademarks registered by Canonical. The use of the Ubuntu word
in the IT world is registered. I don't know how to make it more clear.
Canonical asked me to manage who can use this brand/logo for merchandising,
without benefit.

What I would like to understand is why the hell speaking about something is
bad. This is information, this is "hey if you want, this is available". If
we don't inform our community, how they are aware that this is
available???? how are they aware we are active???? Maybe you don't care
about that (at least, it looks like you don't). But I know people who are
interested. And when we set up the Spreadshirt shop in the past, this was
because the team, at this time, was trying to take care of Ubuntu Studio
enthusiasts.

If a vendor would create an application, or hardware/devices, that would
work out of the box with Ubuntu Studio, we should tell that on the blog.
And perhaps, we should build a list of hardware and application, even if
this is not open source, that are working out of the box with Ubuntu
Studio... (e.g: Lightworks, Blackmagic, Mixbus) This is not promotion of
the vendors. At all. This is informing the user: your device/app is working
out of the box. This is making it easy. This is attracting new users to
Ubuntu Studio.

And with swag, they can show that they use it. Peope can ask them question
about what it is, if it is working well, why they like it.

Actually, you should have a look at that: https://opensource.com/
business/16/8/if-you-build-it-they-wont-come

What Ubuntu Studio is missing today to be more popular, with more people
involved, is good communication and marketing. This is swag. This is good
relationship with the developers. This is us, communicating about great
stuff related Ubuntu Studio. I dream that we could have a
website/communication like elementaryOS or Linux Mint.

If you think that being active in Ubuntu Studio is just code, packaging
and back-ports, background selection, or keep focused on xfce, you are
completely wrong. Open source is not for developers only. Every great
communities has a lot of users, being Ubuntu or Wordpress. Libre Office is
really starting to attract a lot of people, now that their focus is on
end-users. Code is only a few part of the success of a project. We should
all have the end-users in mind when we do something about Ubuntu Studio.
How they use it? how they find it? What do they need?

10 years ago, now, I and others co-funded Ubuntu Studio because it was
obvious in our mind. We could have instead of contributing to 64Studio and
other projects too complicated. But we had the end users in mind and Ubuntu
was the easiest distribution. Users would like to have an easy to
install/use GNU/Linux distribution for multimedia production. We spent
hours, and our money, during many years, debugging drivers, firmwares,
testing kernels, wrote documentation, and a ton of shit like that without
being IT engineers. For some of us, even without being coders. And 4 years
later, in 2010, we had the first very well welcomed release. This is
working well since.

But at this very moment, writing this email, I am really pissed of by Ralf'
answers. I just fucking try to promote Ubuntu Studio. 10 years, guys, 10
years. And Ubuntu Studio is a for sure a working project, but with a small
team of maintainers, and no real community using it and supporting it.

With all the energy/money I spent on this project, I am really sad to see
answers like Ralf's. If you don't understand communication, let that to
people who understand, but please, stop telling us what we should or should
not do. Keep coding (or whatever are your contributions).

I really hope that Ubuntu Studio will evolve. It deserves it.


Antoine THOMAS
Tél: 0663137906
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