[ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: Re: Package Selection for Yakketi Yak

[Jimmy Sjölund]

Seems like I only replied to Luke below and not to the list.

Also I have now spent some, not so successful, time with pitivi. I think the video for 1.0 looks very good but the current version 0.95 is not no way near being ready or a competitor to kdenlive.

I tried my usual workflow by adding three videos and one audio track to make a music video. Just adding more channels / layers than fitted in the window turned out to be quite hard. Then I noticed undo didn't work. It turns out the undo/redo is turned off for 0.95.
There is no way to mute audio in video files. The solution suggested is to separate the audio and video and then delete the audio. That is a no go for syncing music playing in the video with the actual mixed audio file. You need both to be able to sync correctly and mute is then essential. So, I didn't explore further with actually syncing the videos or do transitions as if these basic features are not possible there is no way to use it for anything that needs to sync videos with an external audio.

/Jimmy





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From: Jimmy Sjölund
Date: On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 08:28
Subject: Fwd: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Package Selection for Yakketi Yak
To: <lukefromdc at hushmail.com>
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 20:51, <'lukefromdc at hushmail.com'> wrote:
Kdenlive just keeps getting better and better. Version 16.04 just came out
with all the features of 15.12 and a whole lot more. The last round of updates
apparently was guided by some professional video makers in terms of features
added. By the time Yakkety comes out 16.08 will be out, development is
continuing.

On 4/25/2016 at 2:49 PM, "Len Ovens" <len at ovenwerks.net> wrote:
>
>On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>
>> I think we should be looking at our video sequencers. I just got
>this link
>> from zequence:
>>
>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Policy#Selecting_preinstalled_
>packages
>> that states: "No duplication of tools: If two applications do
>the same exact
>> thing, only one of them should be included."
>>
>> Atm we have 4 video sequencers:
>> Blender, Kdenliv, Pitivi and openshots.
>>
>> Blender does quite a lot of things that non of the other 3 does,
>so it is not
>> up for removal. I always got the feeling that kdenlive is a more
>complete and
>
>Blender also fills another spot in graphics (3d creation) and so
>remains
>for that as well. However the learning curve is high and so there
>are
>other choices.
>
>> professional VSE than pitivi and openshots. I wanted to state
>that there
>> would be a choice between the 2 basic VSE's that are good for
>beginners:
>> openshots and pitivi, but it seems pitivi has come a long way
>lately. Perhaps
>> that means it would be good to keep openshot for beginners, and
>put our
>> choice between kdelive en pitivi?
>
>If there is something that can fill the spot that kdenlive, That
>would be
>a good choice. If it was possible to not have KDE apps at all that
>would
>be preferable, but including them because there is nothing else as
>good is
>better than picking second best.
>
>Video is not my area (at least video editing) as I don't do enough
>of it.

(Disclaimer. I'm sorry that my iOS client mess up the formatting of my response) It's been a while since I edited videos and I'm by no means near any professional work. I haven't tried pitivi recently but will give it a spin. Before it was not up to speed with kdenlive. Great for easy editing of home videos, like openshot, but nothing more advanced. That might have changed, then again the latest developments in kdenlive looks really good. I'm still leaning towards kdenlive being the best "advanced" editor and to evaluate openshot vs pitivi. But we'll see. As long as kdenlive doesn't get too tied into KDE though... /Jimmy
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