[ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 77, Issue 15
Zak
madeinkobaia at gmail.com
Thu Sep 19 18:51:44 UTC 2013
I still don't understand this conversation.
There isn't *ei**the**r direct**ly or in**di**rectly *any* *fascist oresoteric
symbols in this wp* : *or please explain it to me and send me draw or
something that I can visually understand.
The center is a circle that can figure a CD, a LP or an hard drive. In fact
the whole design haven't any formal concept.
The Basica font used for the text is really popular now in design and used
on many places on the web.
Also I invite everybody to be highly careful by sharing their personal and
completely subjective interpretation, who are here for promote a noble
cause.****
Otherwise I can understand remarks about the bar code. I was not sure
myself to add or remove it, because that could indeed induce a "commercial"
feel.
Now bar codes are used in many kind of domains, for sort mails or help
people who have a handicap.
Again, I sent this wp in our dev-list the 6th September, the conversation
was open for modify and improve this work.
Ralf Mardorf I didn't heard you at this time (???)
madeinkobaia
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> 1. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1
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> 2. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1
> (Shubham Mishra)
> 3. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1
> (Ralf Mardorf)
> 4. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1
> (Jimmy Sj?lund)
> 5. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1
> (Ralf Mardorf)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:46:31 +0200
> From: Kaj Ailomaa <zequence at mousike.me>
> To: ubuntu-studio-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default
> wallpaper proposition RC1
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> I really don't see anything political about this WP.
>
> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it.
>
> UI freeze is tomorrow. This will be our new default WP for 13.10.
> The upload has already been requested.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:27:46 +0530
> From: Shubham Mishra <mishrashubham2007 at gmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-studio-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default
> wallpaper proposition RC1
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> On 09/19/2013 01:16 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> > I really don't see anything political about this WP.
> >
> > IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it.
> >
> > UI freeze is tomorrow. This will be our new default WP for 13.10.
> > The upload has already been requested.
> >
>
> I don't see anything wrong with it either. Looks great to me.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:20:19 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
> To: ubuntu-studio-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default
> wallpaper proposition RC1
> Message-ID: <1379571619.3809.15.camel at archlinux>
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> On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote:
> > > IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it.
>
> Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the
> contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me,
> OTOH German designers are accustomed to take care about it, because in
> Germany even a possible misinterpretation is a hard crime. Even a
> swastika that is crossed out, the logo of antifascist groups is a hard
> crime in Germany, since it still does show an anticonstitutional symbol.
> There were a lot of discussions about it, because antifascist were sued
> as if they were fascists. And the antifascists in the end were
> sentenced! That might explain my overcaution. A friend often wears a
> T-shirt from The Stooges shown a swastika, he guess that I'm overcaution
> when I say that he should be careful. For German state authorities it
> simply is an anticonstitutional symbol and we've got a harsh law
> regarding to this.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:00:55 +0200
> From: Jimmy Sj?lund <jimmy at sjolund.se>
> To: "Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion"
> <ubuntu-studio-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default
> wallpaper proposition RC1
> Message-ID: <7837033971346727518 at unknownmsgid>
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> On 19 sep 2013, at 08:20, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote:
> >>> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it.
> >
> > Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the
> > contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me,
> > OTOH German designers are accustomed to take care about it, because in
> > Germany even a possible misinterpretation is a hard crime. Even a
> > swastika that is crossed out, the logo of antifascist groups is a hard
> > crime in Germany, since it still does show an anticonstitutional symbol.
> > There were a lot of discussions about it, because antifascist were sued
> > as if they were fascists. And the antifascists in the end were
> > sentenced! That might explain my overcaution. A friend often wears a
> > T-shirt from The Stooges shown a swastika, he guess that I'm overcaution
> > when I say that he should be careful. For German state authorities it
> > simply is an anticonstitutional symbol and we've got a harsh law
> > regarding to this.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ralf
>
> That was very interesting information that I and probably others are
> unaware of living in different countries.
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:52:37 +0200
> From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
> To: ubuntu-studio-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default
> wallpaper proposition RC1
> Message-ID: <1379584357.4368.13.camel at archlinux>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 11:00 +0200, Jimmy Sj?lund wrote:
> > On 19 sep 2013, at 08:20, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote:
> > >>> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it.
> > >
> > > Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the
> > > contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me,
> > > OTOH German designers are accustomed to take care about it, because in
> > > Germany even a possible misinterpretation is a hard crime. Even a
> > > swastika that is crossed out, the logo of antifascist groups is a hard
> > > crime in Germany, since it still does show an anticonstitutional
> symbol.
> > > There were a lot of discussions about it, because antifascist were sued
> > > as if they were fascists. And the antifascists in the end were
> > > sentenced! That might explain my overcaution. A friend often wears a
> > > T-shirt from The Stooges shown a swastika, he guess that I'm
> overcaution
> > > when I say that he should be careful. For German state authorities it
> > > simply is an anticonstitutional symbol and we've got a harsh law
> > > regarding to this.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ralf
> >
> > That was very interesting information that I and probably others are
> > unaware of living in different countries.
>
> Btw. the wallpaper is _not_ offending the German law. Even for Germany
> there are seemingly exceptions for this law, e.g. comedy on television
> does use swastika and not everybody who wears a patch with a swastika
> that is thrown into a garbage can is sued, but at least some people with
> a crossed out swastika had serious issues. Books as "Mein Kampf" (My
> Battle [US title]/My Struggle [UK title]) are forbidden. Wearing a
> "LONSDALE" T-shirt, while a jacked is covering "LO" and "LE", so that it
> reads "NSDA" like "NSDAP" is allowed too, but not welcome.
>
>
>
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