<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I still don't understand this conversation. </div>There isn't either directly or indirectly any fascist or esoteric symbols in this wp : or please explain it to me and send me draw or something that I can visually understand. </div>The center is a circle that can figure a CD, a LP or an hard drive. In fact the whole design haven't any formal concept. </div>The Basica font used for the text is really popular now in design and used on many places on the web. </div><div>Also I invite everybody to be highly careful by sharing their personal and completely subjective interpretation, who are here for promote a noble cause.</div> <div> </div>Otherwise I can understand remarks about the bar code. I was not sure myself to add or remove it, because that could indeed induce a "commercial" feel. Now bar codes are used in many kind of domains, for sort mails or help people who have a handicap. <div> </div><div>Again, I sent this wp in our dev-list the 6th September, the conversation was open for modify and improve this work. Ralf Mardorf I didn't heard you at this time (???) </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>madeinkobaia </div>Digital Artist -Ubuntu Studio Art Team Leader </div><div><div> </div></div></div></div> <div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/19 <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Send ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-devel digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 (Kaj Ailomaa) 2. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 (Shubham Mishra) 3. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 (Ralf Mardorf) 4. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 (Jimmy Sj?lund) 5. Re: Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 (Ralf Mardorf) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 21:46:31 +0200 From: Kaj Ailomaa <<a href="mailto:zequence@mousike.me">zequence@mousike.me</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:1379533591.18558.23657017.4E091DF6@webmail.messagingengine.com">1379533591.18558.23657017.4E091DF6@webmail.messagingengine.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain I really don't see anything political about this WP. IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. UI freeze is tomorrow. This will be our new default WP for 13.10. The upload has already been requested. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:27:46 +0530 From: Shubham Mishra <<a href="mailto:mishrashubham2007@gmail.com">mishrashubham2007@gmail.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:523A763A.1070507@gmail.com">523A763A.1070507@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 09/19/2013 01:16 AM, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > I really don't see anything political about this WP. > > IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. > > UI freeze is tomorrow. This will be our new default WP for 13.10. > The upload has already been requested. > I don't see anything wrong with it either. Looks great to me. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:20:19 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 Message-ID: <1379571619.3809.15.camel@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote: > > IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me, OTOH German designers are accustomed to take care about it, because in Germany even a possible misinterpretation is a hard crime. Even a swastika that is crossed out, the logo of antifascist groups is a hard crime in Germany, since it still does show an anticonstitutional symbol. There were a lot of discussions about it, because antifascist were sued as if they were fascists. And the antifascists in the end were sentenced! That might explain my overcaution. A friend often wears a T-shirt from The Stooges shown a swastika, he guess that I'm overcaution when I say that he should be careful. For German state authorities it simply is an anticonstitutional symbol and we've got a harsh law regarding to this. Regards, Ralf ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:00:55 +0200 From: Jimmy Sj?lund <<a href="mailto:jimmy@sjolund.se">jimmy@sjolund.se</a>> To: "Ubuntu Studio Development & Technical Discussion" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 Message-ID: <7837033971346727518@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 19 sep 2013, at 08:20, Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> wrote: > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote: >>> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. > > Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the > contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me, > OTOH German designers are accustomed to take care about it, because in > Germany even a possible misinterpretation is a hard crime. Even a > swastika that is crossed out, the logo of antifascist groups is a hard > crime in Germany, since it still does show an anticonstitutional symbol. > There were a lot of discussions about it, because antifascist were sued > as if they were fascists. And the antifascists in the end were > sentenced! That might explain my overcaution. A friend often wears a > T-shirt from The Stooges shown a swastika, he guess that I'm overcaution > when I say that he should be careful. For German state authorities it > simply is an anticonstitutional symbol and we've got a harsh law > regarding to this. > > Regards, > Ralf That was very interesting information that I and probably others are unaware of living in different countries. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 11:52:37 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 - Default wallpaper proposition RC1 Message-ID: <1379584357.4368.13.camel@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 11:00 +0200, Jimmy Sj?lund wrote: > On 19 sep 2013, at 08:20, Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 09:27 +0530, Shubham Mishra wrote: > >>> IMO Ralf has a very subjective interpretation of it. > > > > Perhaps. May it as it be, it's not a letter on it's own, but the > > contrast and that the writing is covered. My perception might fool me, > > OTOH German designers are accustomed to take care about it, because in > > Germany even a possible misinterpretation is a hard crime. Even a > > swastika that is crossed out, the logo of antifascist groups is a hard > > crime in Germany, since it still does show an anticonstitutional symbol. > > There were a lot of discussions about it, because antifascist were sued > > as if they were fascists. And the antifascists in the end were > > sentenced! That might explain my overcaution. A friend often wears a > > T-shirt from The Stooges shown a swastika, he guess that I'm overcaution > > when I say that he should be careful. For German state authorities it > > simply is an anticonstitutional symbol and we've got a harsh law > > regarding to this. > > > > Regards, > > Ralf > > That was very interesting information that I and probably others are > unaware of living in different countries. Btw. the wallpaper is _not_ offending the German law. Even for Germany there are seemingly exceptions for this law, e.g. comedy on television does use swastika and not everybody who wears a patch with a swastika that is thrown into a garbage can is sued, but at least some people with a crossed out swastika had serious issues. Books as "Mein Kampf" (My Battle [US title]/My Struggle [UK title]) are forbidden. Wearing a "LONSDALE" T-shirt, while a jacked is covering "LO" and "LE", so that it reads "NSDA" like "NSDAP" is allowed too, but not welcome. ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel</a> End of ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 77, Issue 15 *************************************************** </blockquote></div> </div>