[ubuntu-studio-devel] Xfce - Was: Anoying/confusing things in our DE

[Len Ovens]

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> It's a new Xfce or GNOME/gtk bug. When I replied I didn't notice that

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> I don't know, but I bet it's GTK related, time to get rid of Xfce and
> many GTK applications, this GTK crap isn't bearable anymore. I'm now on

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> On my machine there are Mate and Cinnamon also installed, I don't like
> them and will try KDE again.

The problem is a lack of developers more than anything else. But also I 
think the gtk devs in particular could take a page from the QT method. QT 
seems to have compatability libs that allow a qt2 program to run with qt3 
for example. The reason we have lost GCDMaster is because gtk/gnome2 libs 
are no longer available. Now much of the indicator stuff has been moved to 
gtk4 while xfce sits in gtk3 :P  LXDE is now looking at switching their 
whole DE to QT. It seems at least some of the Ubuntu development is headed 
the same way.

Anyway, xfce is getting upgraded to the new libs, but the devs are few and 
while it was hoped to be ready for 13.10, it was not and may not be ready 
for 14.04 :(

So now, xfce is spending time and effort just keeping up with libs rather 
than expanding and improving xfce.

KDE seems to be fine. Install Kubuntu then install ubuntustudio-installer. 
This will allow you to install our menu, kernel and whatever metas you 
like. There are two tweaks needed to get rt permitions working (both 
simple) and it is probably best to removed the generic kernel so you know 
which one you will boot to by default. I will probably make up an audio 
settings package that will do these tweaks and force the lowlatency kernel 
as default. If it will be a ubuntustudio package or not I am not sure yet.

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Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net