Disabling pulseaudio

[Mike Holstein]

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 06:37 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> > Quite honestly, Linux audio is still pretty messy.
>
> Unfortunately this is true :(. But a lot of this mess is caused by our
> community. 1. Why not working on one sound server that is useful for all
> tasks instead of working on a new sound server again and again? 2. When
> reporting bugs people shouldn't be called names, e.g. when I reported
> the issues I get with my RME HDSPe AIO. The AIO doesn't work correctly
> here, when I warned somebody _not_ to buy this card the coder of the
> driver not only called me names, but also discredited me. Another
> ignorant coder is responsible for pulseaudio, I never had issues with
> this man, since I don't use it and don't report pulseaudio bugs.
>

this is exactly what im talking about, Ralph.. you had an issue with pulse
whenever that was, 4 or 6 years ago, and you dont use it. so, dont comment
on its quality, or call its developers "ignorant" here on this list,
please. what if we had a pulse audio developer on this list? you realize
that is combative? correct? that is likely why you got attacked/discredited
before... more of a "retaliation" than an attack.. anyway, lets stick to
the facts

you, Ralph, are a valuable asset to this community. you are an excellent
and thorough troubleshooter with impeccable attention to detail. you are
also not a pulse audio user. if you have opinions about pulse, or the pulse
community, or the pulse developers, or the volunteers who develop or
support, create pulseaudio, take those comments somewhere where opinions
like that are welcome. maybe a social media outlet? if you want to discuss
the facts of removing pulse and working without pulse, and using a machine
without pulse, i and other users who want to use a system without pulse
consider that valuable information, and it is welcome and encouraged here.

an easy way (at least for now) to try ubuntu without pulseaudio is to use a
lubuntu live CD. they do not ship pulse by default, and it *is* ubuntu with
the same repos and kernel availability and access to packages. one could
install lubuntu and add just what they want from the repos for an audio
studio and have a system without pulse for audio work.

*sample plausible scenario where one would remove pulseaudio and things
would get "better", thus, making one assume pulseaudio is the issue with
the system:

due to hardware/driver support or system resources or configuration,
removing the overhead of having pulse running allows the system audio more
system resources to work properly. this would be similar to removing any
arguably unnecessary processes from a system, making it seem that the thing
you removed is the cause, but its actually the resources being freed up
that seems to "fix" the issue. thus, leading to...

plausible reasons for removing pulse audio:

- i dont want the overhead of pulseaudio running on my system
- i prefer not using pulseaudio at all since all i use is JACK, and im not
interested in the pulse to jack bridge, or pulse audio for any reason

"pulse audio is crap", coming from a user who does *not* use pulse audio,
or anyone else *is* opinion, and should be regarded as such.. thanks



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