Graphics apps

Len Ovens len at
Sat Jul 28 18:37:48 UTC 2012

On Wed, July 25, 2012 4:06 pm, Shubham Mishra wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Scott Lavender wrote,
>>one thing i wouldn't want to do is make a install image that was 4GB for
>> everyone to >download. therefore, i am concerned about incurring tonnes
>> of new libraries for a >particular application. also, i would be cautious
>> about trying to include applications for >_every_ possible creative use
>> for content creation.
> I completely understand your situation (although Krita isn't just yet
> another graphics app).  Would it be possible to implement what Len
> said about not actually including the application in shipped list, but
> having links to recommended programs that the user can view and
> download if he wants to?

I understand that. To keep size of the DVD down there are other important
packages that are not included that are left for the user to install after
the fact. I have already added krita to the graphics extra SW icon. We
have been told we should not add PPAs as an option in the install which is
correct. I don't even know if we can have a documentation page that points
out that they exist and where they are. I will post on this list when the
quantal ISO actually has these icons installed (the package has yet to
upload and release... I'm hoping Monday) so that people can test some of
these installs and point out problems. For example, I am not even sure
where they will appear in the menu structure.

Art, of any kind, is not well supported in Linux yet. It is a patchwork of
environments, libs and unreleased SW (that is you have to compile it
yourself... maybe I should have said unpackaged). A musician (recording
tech?), video artist or graphics artist will only get the best from Linux
if they are willing to go for more than an out of the box experience. Our
aim is to both provide the very best out of the box experience we can and
provide a great base for adding those extras that can make a Linux box

In my opinion, documentation (and the testing that goes with it) is the
biggest lack we have in the Linux world. I certainly don't see quantal as
the point we are working to. We will (I would say have) accomplished a
lot. Some will show in the release and some is the background info needed
for the next step after. Your help as an artist has been very valuable to

Len Ovens

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