Suport for derivatives gone?
MailForErik at GMail.com
Sun Oct 16 13:57:20 UTC 2011
For what it is worth, I recently met with a Canonical sales person and a
well known Canonical Sales Engineer in person at my work place. They did
not give any indication that Xubuntu or any other derivative would stop
being supported or recognized. When I expressed my discontent with the
newest Ubuntu desktop and that I preferred Xubuntu, they acknowledged that
Xubuntu was very good as well and a great option for our workplace
deployment...no objections or anything negative about derivatives. I'm not
sure where the "Derivatives" link went, but thus far I'm not taking that to
mean anything serious yet.
Unless I misunderstand things, there is little difference between the
desktop and the server except mostly that the server does not come with a
desktop environment installed, thus fewer things running on the server.
Perhaps Xubuntu could be used as your server... If you use Ubuntu server
as it comes, without a desktop, you won't really care about what the default
Ubuntu desktop environment does because there is none. If you want a
desktop environment for the server, you can choose whatever one you
want...(like the Xubuntu XFCE desktop).
Hope that helps.
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 13:36, Len Ovens <len at ovenwerks.net> wrote:
> Since release 11.10 of Ubuntu and server it seems that Canonical has
> decided not to support derivatives. Before there was just the one word at
> the bottom of the screens under projects in tiny print, but now that is
> Unity has gotten worse. It hides even more of the system from the user
> than before... seems set up for netbooks not desktops. I would guess
> Canonical is going after commercial interests. They have been with the
> quite openly with the server release which makes much more sense with
> their paid for control interface than stand alone. The desktop tries to
> make everything full screen with no topbar (window decoration) that would
> allow one to set it to the size they want. Unfortunately, this effects
> things like Xubuntu installed on top of Ubuntu (this would mean Studio
> too) Which I tried on my netbook because unity is so bad... If I wanted
> someone to protect me from my own stuff I would have left M$ on here or
> got a Mac. While I am sure there is a market for the "new Ubuntu",
> Canonical seems to think choice is not an option.
> Where does that leave Studio or Kubuntu or Xubuntu or all the others? It
> looks like to install these on top of vanilla Ubuntu is going to take a
> much more destructive action and mean no going back to the Ubuntu desktop.
> As bad as people have said this release of Studio is... in my opinion, it
> is still better than the desktop version. I think a plain Xubuntu install
> is ok too... I'll know when I try it (gotta rescue my netbook somehow). My
> other worry is what U server is going to do... I am running server LTS and
> when the next LTS comes out I am not sure I will have enough control of it
> without paying Canonical for the tools to do so or adding my own. Anybody
> know of a derivative that builds on server for a better server? I can't
> find the list any more as Canonical has deleted the links to get there.
> Len Ovens
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