Broken or useless package

Scott Lavender scottalavender at
Mon Dec 5 14:51:12 UTC 2011

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Len Ovens <len at> wrote:
> Gigolo as it is in US 12.04 is basically useless. it adds nothing to what
> Thulnar can already do. US desktop seed has:
>  * (gvfs-fuse)              # let non-GNOME apps see GVFS via fuse
>  * launchpad-integration    # Needed to show the launchpad menu items
> Xubuntu desktop has:
>  * (gvfs-fuse)                  # let non-GNOME apps see GVFS via fuse
>  * (gvfs-backends)      # otherwise no network tab
> Funny thing... when I install gvfs-backends, Gigolo works all the way.
> Thulnar can now access sftp://othersystem/ making file transfers for back
> up really easy (just drag and drop) I would think this would be a normal
> part of any multimedia set up where a file may represent rather a large
> number of hours to complete. Please put gvfs-backends back in to desktop.
heh, i just responded to your other email about this.

i will add gvfs-backends on my list to add to the seeds (i am accruing
a list to make most of the changes at once so i don't have to bug
people too many times to rebuild the meta files)

> While we are at it...  * (leafpad) gives at least some text editing/viewing.
>  * (orage) gives a much nicer clock applet that includes a pop up calender
> for instant "so that would be next thursday then?" kinds of things. The
> current clock applet could be removed.
missing text editor was a definitive oversight during last cycle and i
have it already on a list to correct.  there is leafpad and mousepad
for xfce, do you prefer leafpad?

and i'll look into orage and the differences as well.

> Word proc and spread sheet have been removed on purpose so I won't even go
> there or any other bigger apps. and games.

> Parole is useless as installed, it complains it does not have the plugins
> even for a simple mp4/mp3 avi file. I thought it might be that we had not
> included * libasound2-plugins but when I ran synaptic to install it that
> package was already installed so that is not it. However, if I install
> xine-ui instead it seems to work fine with the libs we have already
> installed. Maybe it should replace parole.
previous cycles we included audacious for an audio player and totem (i
believe) for video

audacious was chosen because it provide the ready ability to pick a
file to play, rather than library based, for audiophiles to
immediately check a new version of their song.

i don't know why totem was chosen, other than possibly because it was
the default player for ubuntu.

i'd like to see about getting more feedback from others before making
a decision about these.

> Shotwell works much nicer than what xubuntu has for viewing a directory
> full of photos.

> foo yc20 and AT1 are perhaps in the wrong menu space instead of
> main->multimedia they should be in main->multimedia->Audio production I
> would think.
> Another thing is that there are a number of mixers/controlers for various
> sound cards. they are confusing even when you know they are there. It
> would be nice if there was a menu folder called "sound card specific" or
> something like that. It would make the audio production menu easier to
> use.
we are still working through the menu issue during the transition

> Fooyc20 does not work with the virtual midi keyboard because the keyboard
> is ALSA and the Fooyc20 expects to get midi from jack. There is a jack
> based virtual keyboard (jack-keyboard) that could be included. This is one
> of those areas where there will be trouble for at least a bit. Ardour2
> uses alsa for midi as do most midi things... but newer apps are starting
> to go to jack based midi. Ardour3 and Fooyc20 are two of them. A jack/asla
> bridge besides the "seq" setting in qjackctl would be nice... something
> that migrates the device name with it to jack.
interesting, we will have to look at jack-keyboard and see if it plays
nicely with the other apps ubuntu studio ships

> Anyway, enough comments for today. (maybe)
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thanks again len,


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