Last call (was "Natty and RT Kernel)

Brian David beejunk at
Mon Oct 4 19:22:33 BST 2010

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani at>wrote:

> It is really hard pinpoint on something useful if you don't explain me
> what do you would want learn.
> Kernel programming? Test on latency and jitter corner case? Tips &
> Tricks? What is the final objective do you want achieve?
> Without that specification I couldn't suggest something.
I would like to have reference for all of these things.  I want to know
about the whole process that you need to do to get an -rt kernel prepared.
That is the goal:  to make a good -rt kernel.  That may sound broad, and
that's because I don't even know were to start.  I have know idea what
particular issues I'd be interested in, and which ones I can best help on,
because I don't know anything about the process.

> > Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say
> that
> > my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel.  It's a
> > somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the
> open
> > drivers, and so I need to use fglrx.
> I'll take care only of the bugs reported by active people(*) . Do you
> want one of these? :)
To clarify, are you asking if I want to report a bug? Or be an active
member?  I would like to be both.  If you are asking if I want to report a
bug, do you mean via Launchpad?

See, this what I mean.  I'm starting from an extreme point of ignorance
here.  Don't assume any prior knowledge.  This is often a problem on lists
like this.  People  will come in with earnest desires to help, and when they
ask how they can start, they can get obtuse answers like 'start reporting
bugs'.  Reporting bugs where?  And how?  What's the most effective way to
report bugs?  Have you ever seen the posts on a Launchpad bug?  They're
confusing!  What are those people doing? (yes, I am being a little goofy

This is not meant to offend anyone, I just think that a lot of the more
experienced users on the list, especially the ones who are asking for more
support, don't genuinely know how they come across to beginners.  I've been
on this list for a while, and I have seen several people stop participating
because they get what seems like rude behavior from people who are asking
for their help (I do not mean that you are being rude, Alessio, because you
are not.  It's an overall observation.)  Sometimes the rudeness is not
intentional, it's just people giving an answer that they feel is adequate,
when it is not.

This a tough environment for beginners, and that's a problem when we are
trying to recruit people. The best thing we can do to get more people on
board is to figure out how to get them the information they need -- and be
VERY detailed and nice about it.

Sorry, that ended up being more long-winded than I expected.
-Brian David
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