On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abogani@ubuntu.com">abogani@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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It is really hard pinpoint on something useful if you don't explain me<br>
what do you would want learn.<br>
Kernel programming? Test on latency and jitter corner case? Tips &<br>
Tricks? What is the final objective do you want achieve?<br>
Without that specification I couldn't suggest something.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>I would like to have reference for all of these things. I want to know about the whole process that you need to do to get an -rt kernel prepared. That is the goal: to make a good -rt kernel. That may sound broad, and that's because I don't even know were to start. I have know idea what particular issues I'd be interested in, and which ones I can best help on, because I don't know anything about the process.<br>
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> Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say that<br>
> my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel. It's a<br>
> somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the open<br>
> drivers, and so I need to use fglrx.<br>
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</div>I'll take care only of the bugs reported by active people(*) . Do you<br>
want one of these? :)<br>
<br></blockquote><div> </div></div>To clarify, are you asking if I want to report a bug? Or be an active member? I would like to be both. If you are asking if I want to report a bug, do you mean via Launchpad?<br><br>See, this what I mean. I'm starting from an extreme point of ignorance here. Don't assume any prior knowledge. This is often a problem on lists like this. People will come in with earnest desires to help, and when they ask how they can start, they can get obtuse answers like 'start reporting bugs'. Reporting bugs where? And how? What's the most effective way to report bugs? Have you ever seen the posts on a Launchpad bug? They're confusing! What are those people doing? (yes, I am being a little goofy here)<br>
<br>This is not meant to offend anyone, I just think that a lot of the more experienced users on the list, especially the ones who are asking for more support, don't genuinely know how they come across to beginners. I've been on this list for a while, and I have seen several people stop participating because they get what seems like rude behavior from people who are asking for their help (I do not mean that you are being rude, Alessio, because you are not. It's an overall observation.) Sometimes the rudeness is not intentional, it's just people giving an answer that they feel is adequate, when it is not.<br>
<br>This a tough environment for beginners, and that's a problem when we are trying to recruit people. The best thing we can do to get more people on board is to figure out how to get them the information they need -- and be VERY detailed and nice about it.<br>
<br>Sorry, that ended up being more long-winded than I expected.<br>-- <br>-Brian David<br>