Move limits.conf settings to -audio task?

Cory K. coryisatm at nc.rr.com
Mon Jan 14 04:05:40 GMT 2008


Cory K. wrote:
> hollunder at gmx.at wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:09:37 -0500
>> "Cory K." <coryisatm at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>  
>>   
>>     
>>> This should have been a separate thread as it has nothing to do with
>>> the subject.
>>>
>>> This will _not_ get set in a new package as it would mean another
>>> package to maintain. We are creating a app that will allow users to
>>> set items in limits.conf. I will ask about the possibility of setting
>>> the limits.conf stuff in the -audio package but realize things aren't
>>> as easy as they might seem.
>>>
>>> Touching limits.conf means editing another packages file. Thats a no
>>> no in alot of people's minds. Moving where we set it might raise some
>>> eyebrows.
>>>
>>> I suggest people use that or learn a little more about the system and
>>> apps they are trying to use.
>>>
>>> -Cory
>>>     
>>>       
>> I don't know anything about packaging, so I also don't know the hassles
>> of maintaining an additional package. As far as I understand it it
>> shouldn't matter if it is where it is now or in audio, it manipulates
>> another packages files in both cases.
>>
>> Where will you place the package? Will the user be able to find it
>> initially and know what to do? Else it's rather senseless imho.
>>   
>>     
>
> Its not "in" anything a user will actually see. It would most likely end
> up in a post-install script as part of the .deb.
>
> Also, what has to be considered is installing this package (updated
> -audio package) on a existing system can overwrite a users existing
> .conf. A BIG no no (but not unheard of). Many more people install the
> -audio meta than the -settings package so we are gonna have to weigh the
> impact of the move *if* it happens.
>
>   
>> The thing I (and obviously not only I) am worried about is the initial
>> user experience. Users that don't want the Desktop (and there
>> are quite some reasons for that) currently get a not-working audio
>> system. That's just, uhm, well.. yeah..
>>   
>>     
>
> One could always grab -settings by itself but that will change some
> other things users might not want.
>
>   
>> You probably know yourself how informative the wiki currently is and
>> how many people usually give support on irc and what pain that same
>> thing was at the initial release of ubuntu studio.
>>   
>>     
>
> Actually, the things we set in limits.conf were taken directly from the
> wiki which actually existed before we officially became a distro. :)
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/DapperPreparation That
> page is linked to a couple of times throughout the Ubuntu Studio wiki pages.
>
> The team will look at whats best from a technical POV (which sadly
> trumps a users POV too often) and do the best we can.
>
> Best thing to do might be to educate users on our upcoming
> ubuntustudio-controls app. Which aims to address common settings among
> multimedia production users.
>
> -Cory

Luke. Can you weigh in on this?

-Cory \m/



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